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DriverLost
05-15-2007, 11:39 AM
I thought I would put this here because its very pro 1st generation xB.

The bad part is, this Paul Niedermeyer rips 08 to shreads. yikes.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=3729
jester4666
05-15-2007, 11:45 AM
wow, that's one hell of a write up.
BunnyBox
05-15-2007, 11:56 AM
Opinions are like assholes-----everyone has one
whatmovesu
05-15-2007, 12:08 PM
he is harsh but gets one thing right IMO it is more camry esque that is why i like it :loveit:
ifeldwn02
05-15-2007, 01:25 PM
i will agree with alot of that though i wish they would have kept more of the style of the 1st gen and seats do look cheap but thats just me
BunnyBox
05-15-2007, 01:28 PM
Personally, I dont think he got half of it right. but that is just my opinion. I think there are alot of improvements/upgrades
jester4666
05-15-2007, 01:30 PM
i'm still not sure why they only did the 1 huge backup light.....
THansenite
05-15-2007, 01:34 PM
i'm still not sure why they only did the 1 huge backup light.....

x 2 I can't get over the single reverse light. It irritates me a great deal. :x
dj short-e
05-15-2007, 01:41 PM
WOW!... that doesn't sound good at all..
BunnyBox
05-15-2007, 01:43 PM
Look back at how many people didn't like the first gen when it first came out. There will always be people out there with negative opinions about everything. You should go check it out for yourself and form your own opinions
dj short-e
05-15-2007, 01:48 PM
I think they're pretty nice actually.. I've seen them in person.. but it sounds like he's stating some facts, not just opinions.

1. Being Bigger
2. Heavier
3. Hard seats

I'm not sayin' he's right or not.. just sound like he not just making up opinions on his own.. i dunno!
El_Jorge
05-15-2007, 01:50 PM
its Texas Tundra brand BBQ sauce-stained fingerprints are all over this little porker.

Jeez.....this guy is rough. Im glad people dont like it. People didnt like the xB at first. I know all my friends thought I was dumb for wanting one.
whatmovesu
05-15-2007, 01:51 PM
If you agree or not.....scion DID LISTEN to ALL complaints from US OWNERS on the 1st gen xB......
jester4666
05-15-2007, 01:56 PM
If you agree or not.....scion DID LISTEN to ALL complaints from US OWNERS on the 1st gen xB......

i really don't have any complaints on the 1st gen :dots:
_Keith_
05-15-2007, 02:01 PM
i really don't have any complaints on the 1st gen :dots:
When the xB came out first thing all over SL was can we swap it....... needs more power........ :naughty:
jester4666
05-15-2007, 02:03 PM
it's an econobox, it's not meant for power
_Keith_
05-15-2007, 02:11 PM
it's an econobox, it's not meant for power

DId I say that? I said all over SL thats all that was said when it first came out!
BunnyBox
05-15-2007, 02:20 PM
I think they're pretty nice actually.. I've seen them in person.. but it sounds like he's stating some facts, not just opinions.

1. Being Bigger
2. Heavier
3. Hard seats

I'm not sayin' he's right or not.. just sound like he not just making up opinions on his own.. i dunno!

of those three points, the seats are actually softer as far as the "foam". They are alot more comfortable. Yes, the xB2 is bigger and heavier, due to "more" storage and bigger engine, both positive improvements. I guess I am just biased.
jester4666
05-15-2007, 02:28 PM
DId I say that? I said all over SL thats all that was said when it first came out!

i know that, i was on SL back in 04
_Keith_
05-15-2007, 02:37 PM
i know that, i was on SL back in 04

Me to had a xB back then
BloodBox
05-15-2007, 02:52 PM
Ouch dude that hurts.
whatmovesu
05-15-2007, 03:37 PM
If you agree or not.....scion DID LISTEN to ALL complaints from US OWNERS on the 1st gen xB......


like I said
trinben
05-15-2007, 03:55 PM
wow that was brutal.....
jwaj2002
05-15-2007, 04:35 PM
atleast the fixed the windshield problems, or made it look that way
DriverLost
05-16-2007, 10:30 AM
Yeah the ridge in the hood is to deflect the air more over the roof. So maybe fewer pebbles will chip the glass.

I got to drive the snot out of a new 5 speed in downtown KC. The new xB is very cool in many ways, and I do like it enough to eventually own one.

But that guy nailed it on a lot of the bad points.

They should of just called it something else, and if sales went in the wrong direction, type of buyers, low sales, what ever. They could of brought back the old xB with minor changes.

Like a 1.8 option, slight interior changes, slight body changes, or maybe its own platform to lose the wasted Echo spare tire area, wider track rear end, ext.

Its just too much change way too soon. :neutral:
ntwrkguru
05-17-2007, 11:57 AM
They should of just called it something else, and if sales went in the wrong direction, type of buyers, low sales, what ever. They could of brought back the old xB with minor changes.

Its just too much change way too soon. :neutral:

Agreed. I think the xD more closely resembles the xA than the new xB resembles the current xB.