HID's

[Blueblitz2246]

I need a decision breaker here sciko's. I'm lookin to get some new HID's but i dont know which ones to get. everything from 3k-12k... whats better? i want the most light possible, hella crisp and not to much of a blue/purple tint. like the new BMW/Lexus's have. so which one?

[JylBish]

I prefer a 6-8K. Nice and bright, slightly blue.

[Cruentus]

HID Colors (http://www.blindinghid.com/hid-colors/)


You may be confused about which color to choose for your HID conversion kit. The color of the output is determined by the temperature. The lower the temperature (usually around 4300k or so) is the whitest and brightest. As you increase the temperature the color scales as well.
At 6000k you have a light blue, 8000k a deeper blue, 10,000k an starts to turn blue/purple, 12000k starts to turn to purple. I recommend anything between 4300k-8000k to look the best but also be extremely bright.

http://www.blindinghid.com/colors.gif

[JylBish]

That's very helpful Daniel. :)

[Blueblitz2246]

HID Colors (http://www.blindinghid.com/hid-colors/)


You may be confused about which color to choose for your HID conversion kit. The color of the output is determined by the temperature. The lower the temperature (usually around 4300k or so) is the whitest and brightest. As you increase the temperature the color scales as well.
At 6000k you have a light blue, 8000k a deeper blue, 10,000k an starts to turn blue/purple, 12000k starts to turn to purple. I recommend anything between 4300k-8000k to look the best but also be extremely bright.

thanks man. my 2 biggest concerns are light quality, as far as how well they light. and not looking ricer-ish.. i had a guy in civic pass me the other day, he must have had 10k's but they were all over the place, really really hurt my eyes. so haha i want to see at night very well, but not blind oncoming traffic haha. does anyone know what the new Evo X's are running? thats the color im lookin for... thinkin they might be 8k stock..

[ScikNurse]

I bought my 55 watt 6000K HIDs from apexcone.com. I just wish I had projector headlights so the light wouldn't scatter everywhere, because they are very bright. I love them though (other than those reasons) and they are cheap on that site, in my opinion. Easy to install and I've had no problems with them. Here's an explanation of the difference between the 35w and 55w kits from the site:
"Our 55w HID kits are 40% brighter than the standard 35w kits.
The 55W system ballasts are about 1 cm longer than the 35W ballasts.
55w kits tend to wash out some of the color of the HID bulb due to the light output( for example, a 55w 8000k will look similar in color to a 35w 6000k kit).
55w Kits are not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area."

If you want to see how the 55w 6000k HID kit looks, I have pics and a video of them on my Flickr page (see my signature). They have a very slight tint of blue, and let me warn you they are very bright. They pretty much outshine most headlights on the road,haha. If you have the non-projector headlights, you need 9006 bulbs for low beam or 9005 for high beam. By the way I sound like a huge dork in my video,haha

[Blueblitz2246]

I bought my 55 watt 6000K HIDs from apexcone.com. I just wish I had projector headlights so the light wouldn't scatter everywhere, because they are very bright. I love them though (other than those reasons) and they are cheap on that site, in my opinion. Easy to install and I've had no problems with them. Here's an explanation of the difference between the 35w and 55w kits from the site:
"Our 55w HID kits are 40% brighter than the standard 35w kits.
The 55W system ballasts are about 1 cm longer than the 35W ballasts.
55w kits tend to wash out some of the color of the HID bulb due to the light output( for example, a 55w 8000k will look similar in color to a 35w 6000k kit).
55w Kits are not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area."

If you want to see how the 55w 6000k HID kit looks, I have pics and a video of them on my Flickr page (see my signature). They have a very slight tint of blue, and let me warn you they are very bright. They pretty much outshine most headlights on the road,haha. If you have the non-projector headlights, you need 9006 bulbs for low beam or 9005 for high beam. By the way I sound like a huge dork in my video,haha



wow, impressive, thanks! im gettin those. could you do me a favor though?? haha can you find a hella dark street/alley what have you... or just the middle of no where, and take a pic at night? hahaha then post it. then i'll be set on buyin those. thanks!

[Blueblitz2246]

actually just found this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmPjLVmUjKA

so picture not needed. thanks alot for the info though!! they are intense.

[ScikNurse]

haha sure, I'll try to do that this weekend. I'll probably take a video so you can see how they turn on and warm up also

[Blueblitz2246]

haha sure, I'll try to do that this weekend. I'll probably take a video so you can see how they turn on and warm up also

ha kk, thanks!

[ScikNurse]

actually just found this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmPjLVmUjKA

so picture not needed. thanks alot for the info though!! they are intense.

Ok yeah, that's pretty much it. That Mazda has such a nice cutoff though because it has projectors. I'm still going to take a video just so I can compare for myself,lol

[Blueblitz2246]

Ok yeah, that's pretty much it. That Mazda has such a nice cutoff though because it has projectors. I'm still going to take a video just so I can compare for myself,lol

ok! sounds good, im looking at HID videos now hahaha, for the last like 30 mins. these are pretty impressive, music is good to :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMddE1TiSWM&feature=related

[TRD TC]

HID Colors (http://www.blindinghid.com/hid-colors/)


You may be confused about which color to choose for your HID conversion kit. The color of the output is determined by the temperature. The lower the temperature (usually around 4300k or so) is the whitest and brightest. As you increase the temperature the color scales as well.
At 6000k you have a light blue, 8000k a deeper blue, 10,000k an starts to turn blue/purple, 12000k starts to turn to purple. I recommend anything between 4300k-8000k to look the best but also be extremely bright.

http://www.blindinghid.com/colors.gif

ahh cool never knew that .. i might have to get a pair of the 8000k

[Blueblitz2246]

bump

[TRD TC]

i would go with the 8k to me they look more cleaner

[Blueblitz2246]

i would go with the 8k to me they look more cleaner

im lookin at 55w 10k's now ha, suckers are bright. not to much blue.

not sure about the fogs though... can you do anything higher than a 6k in a fog? theres alot of heat i know that, i just dont know how much they can handle.i dont want yellow, i want the low/high beams and fogs to match. bright white, with a very very very little blue tint

[TRD TC]

not sure man .. do not know to much about hid .. check out this form here

http://www.scikotics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42927

he is one of our sponsors .. his name is keith .. he would be able to help you out as to he also sells hid also .. if you post there it has to be approved not sure why but thats how they have it set up so if you do not see your post after posting that is why, so send him an email im sure he will help you out as much as he can .. he also own's a tc to

[ckeomany]

well tanner...you cant help light dispersion. what i mean is in my definition how the light explodes when your turn on your hid's. if your tc has the halogen headlight lens...that bubble looking thing then your light will be focused so you wont have to worry about 'blinding oncoming traffic.'
now you said you were looking for an hid kit i think...
well if you are not worried about price then a product made from japan. Xetronic. they have a digital kit that produces light at 35watts. the ballasts are made from ceramic and reduces heat and is slim enough to place practically anywhere and the kit does not need an ignitor to operate like most other kits. main thing is that this is water/weatherproof! but the downside to this awesome product is that its expensive.
another brand i recommend is operatic hid kit. its waterproof and not expensive. i hear from a lot of ppl that they love this product. so the picking is up to you.

[Aurora]

Christopher brings up a good point. Operatic has HID kits available now for $100. This includes everything you need and he lets you choose between 33W, 55W, or a slim ballast (same wattage as 33W).

I was going to say get 5000k if you're wanting a good light spread and not too much blueish tint. It's the best of both worlds if you're going with a 33W or slim ballast. If you are going for the 55W which produces even more light, then I'd go for the 6000k because 55W ballasts will knock it down 1000k anyways.

[HammeredRooster]

nice info. just found a mod to do.

[TRD TC]

does anybody know if that 8k has a really nice blue tint to it??

[Blueblitz2246]

Christopher brings up a good point. Operatic has HID kits available now for $100. This includes everything you need and he lets you choose between 33W, 55W, or a slim ballast (same wattage as 33W).

I was going to say get 5000k if you're wanting a good light spread and not too much blueish tint. It's the best of both worlds if you're going with a 33W or slim ballast. If you are going for the 55W which produces even more light, then I'd go for the 6000k because 55W ballasts will knock it down 1000k anyways.

im pretty convinced on a 55w 8000k setup, hellla bright with not much blue... what do ya think?

[ckeomany]

most 'new cars' nowdays are equipped with 8k hids. i know s2k have phillips ballasts with 8k stock and the nissan maxima's...the 2000's models have an option upgrade for 8k hids.
if you want to go for vision plus style then get no more than 8k.
im getting 8k hids myself..just watch youtube videos for different color specs.

[WeAkSaUcE]

get ones that match ur car!!! i got ma 12k looka like ma car lol

[Blueblitz2246]

bump.... sorry to revive a long dead thread, but im looking for a dual projector housing. i've found a few things online but wanted to get some sciko opinions. I want something with 2 projectors in the housing (2+2=4 total :]) suggested brands? The projectors that came stock with my tc only have 1. then the high beam is regular (non projector). thanks for your help!!! 8-)

[The 1 2 Die 4]

IMPO: The 08+ Projectors are the best lights to have.. I would never buy an aftermarket headlight.. Simply because the quality is not as good as OEM.. Also, I cant stand how most of them look... Aurora has some sick headlights, but he did his own retrofit...

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107532

I got 3k, they put out the most lumens (actual visable light).. And the best thing about it, not even close to blue.. lol.. When I get fogs, they will be 3k too..

Keep in mind these were taken with a camera phone..
The color is best visable in this pic..
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww46/The12Die4/RS%205%20tC/cid__0209102325-00.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww46/The12Die4/RS%205%20tC/cid__0209102331-00.jpg
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww46/The12Die4/RS%205%20tC/cid__0209102330-00.jpg

[Blueblitz2246]

yeah i dont want the blue tint, I also saw that whole thread, that retrofit took alot of work, more than im willing to put into it ha. it would probably be easier to buy one of the double projector headlights then take all the useless crap out of them, random LED's, orange reflectors. i just want the 2 projectors, and the signal, thats all.

yours look hella nice man. i heard that the 5k's have more light? maybe im wrong?

[The 1 2 Die 4]

Order your single set of high beams, crack open your stock ones.. Bingo.. You dont have to do all of what Aurora did, he kind of went the long route, but he got what he wanted..

[Blueblitz2246]

how easy is it to open up the OEM headlights? dont you put it in the oven or something? haha

[Blueblitz2246]

also, i just found the color combo i want for my dash lighting (from your pic) where did you get them from? ledmod.com im assuming?

[The 1 2 Die 4]

I had a local friend do my gauges.. Im not telling how they were done, since I want to be the only person with my gauges... ;-)


And yes, you do bake the headlights to loosen the seal and pull them apart, then you mod the inside, and bake them back together.. I thought you read the SL thread??? You should read the whole thread... :-P

[Blueblitz2246]

haha fair enough. im guessing you got the LED's through him also..

how risky is baking the lights? what temp, time etc...

[The 1 2 Die 4]

Ok, I gave you the thread... You alredy read it.. And I dont know every thing off the top of my head.. I personally havent done it before.. but will eventually...

And yes, he did all of my leds and colors in the same get go.. I hope my gauges inspire you to come up with your own look.. lol.. Theres a thread on SL for that too.. lmao...

This is what they were first..
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww46/The12Die4/RS%205%20tC/gauges.jpg
Added the chrome inside..
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww46/The12Die4/RS%205%20tC/gauge2.jpg
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww46/The12Die4/RS%205%20tC/RS546.jpg

[DeadCannon]

I've got 9006 6k and H3 3k on thier way. Actually, they should come in today.

[Human Collapse]

I just installed my 6000k's from Meng this past weekend. I kind of wish that I had gotten the 8000k's though. I don't want any problem with the cops, so I went with something safe, but then I read somewhere that the stock BMW HIDs are 8000k so I know I would have been safe with those now...

If you don't care about the cops, yeah, go with some 10k or 12k, they look pretty wicked IMO.

[digomania]

Just gathering info. I see where some sites offer the different bulb sizes (H1, 9006...etc), what is the best option?

[DeadCannon]

The ones that fit your car…

05-07 and 08 spec(2 lamp style) 9006 low beam 9005 high beam
08+ (3 lamp/projector) H11 low 9005 high
fog lamps are usually H3

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[digomania]

Cool thanks for the info.

[digomania]

Ive seen some on ebay for around $40-50. Do you think it makes a big difference and for the 06 do i need to get the relay too?

[DeadCannon]

Personally, I saved up and spent extra for a couple sets from Meng. Often times cheap sets are just that, cheap. They tend to burn out easily and the ballasts aren't very durible. Meng's kits are well made and they give a three year waranty to members of forums they sponsor.

[digomania]

Ok where can i check them out at?

[DeadCannon]

http://stores.mengmotorsports.com/StoreFront.bok

[digomania]

Much appreciated. Thanks again

[The 1 2 Die 4]

Or, you can click on the link below.. :)

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[Spicy_Mchaggiz]

5000K or bust.

[DeadCannon]

Nah, 5k is just straight white. Boring

**forces everyone to ignore his tC is SW**

[Lt4mula]

http://www.ddmtuning.com/
Thought about this kit for my fogs. Only 30 + shipping. Idk about the quality, but its a lifetime warranty. Shipping is covered for first 30 days.

[The 1 2 Die 4]

^^ Those kits look just like the ones from Meng.. But I wouldnt count on that lifetime warranty.. As soon as DDM goes out of business, that warranty is over.. Sounds like its a little bit too good to be true.. Or too good to be quality.. lol..