Break yo'self foo!

[xBeyond]

Yeah cheesy title, but I was curious, do the '05 Scion xB's have break on the back, I know I have gotten my front breaks replaced but not sure if they had them on the back, I was looking online for breaks and every site I go to, the only have front breaks, Also I want to get some affordable breaks but good enough to almost stop on a dime. I have been Slowly tuning up my ride because its starting to run like shit, I just ordered Platinum Spark Plugs for a better ignition and hopefully on my next pay check I can order my Tanabe DF210's. Also when I turn my wheels till they dont turn anymore. it sounds as if its grinding something within a tin pan, It has never done that before. Any suggestions would greatly help. Everyone here has been a huge help which is why I keep coming back here :dance:.

[sexB]

lol you have drum brakes on the back.when you lower it make sure you get it allined and get your cv joints checked out :cake:

[xbgod]

As far as rear brakes go, unless your willing to spend some coin your stuck with drum.

Any real mods for this car are expensive as like any car would be. Real performance mods are always expensive due to the nature of what you are doing with them. Not to mention most people that own a XB arn't looking or have the money to throw at a 9,000 car. Hince why they bought the car.

But if your one of the few looking to actually do something other than lowering springs and a C.A.I. P.M me since your near by and I'll put you in a good direction.

Here are a couple of pics of a rear brake conversion.

XBG

[Spicy_Mchaggiz]

Clearly your XB is crazy and has no rear brakes. Seriously though you have drum brakes in the rear. They only do about 30% worth of actual stopping on the vehicle. The front brakes take care of most of the braking force of the vehicle.

[xbgod]

You are clearly an idoit. The drums on my set-up retains the stock parking brake while the attached 13" rotor does the braking. My split on my set-up in 60-40.

Do you really think that I would have anything on this ride that dosen't actually work? I've got the most expensive , thoughout 1st gen Xb in the country. Clearly you don't follow my build or even understand braking. I manufactured brakes at Aerospace Components which is where these were made.

I don't even have the stock pedal ratio or proportioning valve. My entire set-up is custom.

XBG

[crackinabox]

You are clearly an idoit. The drums on my set-up retains the stock parking brake while the attached 13" rotor does the braking. My split on my set-up in 60-40.

Do you really think that I would have anything on this ride that dosen't actually work? I've got the most expensive , thoughout 1st gen Xb in the country. Clearly you don't follow my build or even understand braking. I manufactured brakes at Aerospace Components which is where these were made.

I don't even have the stock pedal ratio or proportioning valve. My entire set-up is custom.

XBG

Kudos to you. good to know that there are still jackasses out there......how about being a little more constructive and helpful to the noobs and a little less of a sarcastic ass

[xbgod]

You know I would'nt need to be sarcastic or even as you say. "an ass". But if your gonna open your mouth up to me before you know what your talking about, be prepared to get hammerd. Especially if you come off like a dick or a know it all. I enjoy helping others and if someone dosen't understand something then ask me, don't come off with an off colored comment. Lets be real, look at my back brake pics. You can't tell me you cant see the backet holding the rear caliper on." Unless your Hellen Keller".


All I'm saying is don't start someting with a smart ass comment especially on something your not quite sure of and expect not to get a sarcastic answer in return. This works both ways.

XBG

[crackinabox]

I have read your posts....you always attack people more than i ever see you help them...you come on here bragging about how much money you have spent on your car. Who cares. at the end of the day you are dumping a shit load of money into a scion xb. the scion community doesnt revolve around your xb......therefore not everyone follows your build. for instance i could care less about your build. if i want a fast car, i buy a car worth making fast. if i am gonna dump money on performance parts, i will dump them into my Fairlane. dont come at me like i dont know what i am talking about. if you are sincere in helping fellow owners then dont be so quick to cut em down

[xbgod]

Again, I don't attack unless someone starts off with some piss poor comment. And it dosen't matter what you dump your money into. At the end of the day it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. And please tell me you have a better comment than the, "If I were to put money into a car I would................" That is the most lame rebuttle that everyone says when put in a corner. This is just a toy for me to experiment with. This is no DD, so things I do are quite different from most. I've done a ton more NHRA american muscle than import, completely diffrent path. So if you want to start going there I'd be more than happy to entertane you.

Your a prime example for me being an "ass" you opened your mouth first.

XBG

[xbgod]

Since American muscle is more up your alley here is what I'm used to building.

XBG

[crackinabox]

Someone has a question, doesn't matter how "piss poor," they are still looking for help. if you dont like their question, dont reply....simple as that.

[xbgod]

Their not looking for help if their making a snyed remark. Such as the guy was with the drum brake comment.

You can't spin this one way. Quite looking for an out and everything you keep coming back with dosen't substanciate anything you've said.

If a peson wants help they ask for it they don't start off with a bullshit comment then ask for help. That would make no sense, such as your rebuttle to this whole thing.

When you have a lgical thought to all this then post it. Other wise move on.

And to top it all off, your robbing this guys thread by trying to defend the assclown with the bullshit comment. I'm quite sure I answered his question with no rude comment before this other ass showed up and your bleeding heart attitude.

XBG

[Chewy]

How about this Aras.....try respecting others. No need for name calling. It just causes needless drama like what has occured in this thread. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. Take your pick but there's no reason for it.

Unless you have something helpful to the topic on hand please move on.

[xbgod]

It goes both ways.......or does not anyone get that? I didn't start this. But if you think i'm not going to respond when someone else starts it up your wrong.

You show me where I started this. I belive it started with the comment on the rear disc brakes comment made by the other guy, that didn't even start this thread.

You want respect than give it. Don't start with a shitty comment and not expect something in return.

It's to easy for me. You ask a question I'll answer it all day long. You wana act like an ass, well I'll entertane that too.

Kinda funny though, People think i'm an ass but it's funny how many people PM me for questions on turbo set-ups and I let them call me directly and get them on the path to success.

XBG

[Chewy]

You are clearly an idoit.

Take this crap to SL not on here.
Next time I see name calling you will receive infractions for flaming or insulting another member.

[Spicy_Mchaggiz]

You are clearly an idoit. The drums on my set-up retains the stock parking brake while the attached 13" rotor does the braking. My split on my set-up in 60-40.

Do you really think that I would have anything on this ride that dosen't actually work? I've got the most expensive , thoughout 1st gen Xb in the country. Clearly you don't follow my build or even understand braking. I manufactured brakes at Aerospace Components which is where these were made.

I don't even have the stock pedal ratio or proportioning valve. My entire set-up is custom.

XBG

Thats great for you, luckily I wasn't replying to you at all. Congrats on being an asshat. I could care less about building up a toaster honestly. :1036946487_gif: Stock proportioning is still only about 30% to the rear, which will help the OP understand that rear brakes need not be replaced near as much.

In the 1 post I've read of yours you've once again reminded me why I hate 95% of the Scion "modders" scene.

[xbgod]

All right than Spicy, if you weren't talking about me than I'll appologize to you. However your comment appared to be aimed towards me. As well it took quite a few posts to say otherwise. Most of all braking is a 70-30 split, that's common among all cars domestic and import. The closer you get into racing the more you want to get into a more equally bias system with disc brakes. Which will require a master cylinder change as well as pedal ratio and or proportioning. And as far as scion owners go, with all the events I go to, I've found scion owners to be no different than any other crowd. You got your good you got your not so good. Remember for the most part this is a testosterone driven sport, your gonna get ass holes. Everyone wants to be on top. If you don't than your not human. Think what you will.

XBG

[Spicy_Mchaggiz]

All right than Spicy, if you weren't talking about me than I'll appologize to you. However your comment appared to be aimed towards me. As well it took quite a few posts to say otherwise. Most of all braking is a 70-30 split, that's common among all cars domestic and import. The closer you get into racing the more you want to get into a more equally bias system with disc brakes. Which will require a master cylinder change as well as pedal ratio and or proportioning. And as far as scion owners go, with all the events I go to, I've found scion owners to be no different than any other crowd. You got your good you got your not so good. Remember for the most part this is a testosterone driven sport, your gonna get ass holes. Everyone wants to be on top. If you don't than your not human. Think what you will.

XBG

I won't even begin to ask how my original post was directed at you when it was clearly directed at the OP since I Was making reference to braking systems on the rear of the car. Why'd it take me so long to "reply", because I don't sit on this site thinking I'm a God to a toaster. I laugh since you agree with me in saying 30% of braking is done in the rear, you had to get on a high horse and make this thread about you're xB when it never was. I also laugh that you talk to me like I'm a kid, I'm not some 18/19 year old that this is there first rodeo. I've been around racing, and modding for nearly 10 years now. I know a "thing or two" about cars.

Basically I'll leave it as this. Not every thread is about you. Read the replies before you spout off. And stop assuming you're the only all knowning person on the site.

[xbgod]

I never disagreed you with you about the 30%. And I never made this about me. You've tried to spin this into, about me. I answered his question and even showed him a rear conversion.

This guy didn't even know the car had rear drum he was confused or lost. Either way he had his question answered. You spouted off about percentages and other braking atributes that had no relevance to his issues or even would make sense to him. So if your gonna bring up something else to put in the fire explain it to him, cause it's clear he dosen't know.

and so you have 10 years moding cars wow. I've actually been building them since 1994. "not just moding" more like manufacturing. "NHRA"

You see how this works now, I appologized and moved on....but you had to be condescending and push the envelope so I push back to you.

:wallb:

So go ahead and get your last remark in, i'm done responding to you.

XBG

[crackinabox]

Thank God.... This pissing contest needs to end. Nobody asked about rear disk conversions. He just wanted to know if their were rear brakes. Someone that doesn't know too much about cars or is new could easily be confused when you look at a drum brake setup. Let it go.......

[djdropz]

omg totally off topic.
so anyways. yes you do have rear brakes. they are drums.

[Resolve]

OK So I know this was from like weeks ago but wow this was a good read.

So XBG mistook what the OP was asking and about rear brakes and started advising him of Disc Conversions for back and it costing money. Not realizing he was asking if the xB ACTUALLY HAS REAR BRAKES STOCK drum or other wise.

Spicy responds Jockingly to the OP. but after XBG.

XBG gets offended thinking it is toward him for whatever reason. And Jabs back towards Spicy.

Crackinabox jumps on XBG and calls him names as well when he wasn't even part of the original comments.

XBG and Crackinabox go back in forth.

Chewy jumps on XBG for name calling and threatens infractions. Yet says nothing to Crackinabox or Spicy. If calling out one should call out all IMO.

Then Spicy comes back and advises that his comment was not about XBG.

XBG apologizes to Spicy about taking towards him explains why. then explains the scene as most of us know it.

Spicy then responds back and basically takes jabs back at XBG.

XBG responds becuase that is how he is and his style. Which I understand.

Crackinabox makes a comment about back forthing which he helped encite.

lol it's like a Soap Opera.

I just wanted to add to most post count in this thread also.

Side Note. it was brought up that XBG was making this about his xB. His original response did not do that. He was explaining in general not about his specific. He later responses did have some mention about it when he thought his was being attacked.

and I agree that everyone says buy a better car if you want performance I have done it myself on some occasions since it is easier but I also do not down them for wanting to be different. OK I can buy a car that anyone else can buy and have same performance as them. Or I can take a different car like a Scion and throw money at it and make performance beast with it and have more of a wow factor with my numbers.


TO ORIGNAL POSTER> YES YOU HAVE REAR BRAKES. YOU HAVE DRUM BRAKES ON THE REAR

[Chewy]

Resolve your last line was the only thing needed. Everything else was pointless

Thread locked.