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Phlame217
04-29-2008, 03:53 PM
Well after i got my car back from the body shop, they had shorted everything but the keyless and accesory lines on my alarm so i was going to get it fixed, but then last saturday I shorted the accessory line on my alarm when i took the relay out of the line and hooked it directly up to the solenoid...

So today I bought the viper 5900 which is very similar to the alarm i have (the 5000), but it has a proximity radar sensor which means I can leave my windows down and if someone reaches in, it will detect it! It also has an improve antennae with a 1 mile + range. It also has the remote start.

My question is if anyone has experience doing the remote start on a tC? I got the universal bypass module to which im going to use my valet key to activate. I understand the wiring of the satellite on the remote start, but im not sure how to wire the transponder bypass.

BTW this is on a manual, but I already rigged a neutral kill switch so if the tC is left in gear, it will not start.

Any help appriciated.

Spock
04-29-2008, 08:10 PM
wiring the bypass is simple. if you have the DEI part then you need to hook up the blue wire to the blue/white wire off of the remote start(ground out when running wire), the red wire goes to constant +12v and the black wire goes to ground. That is all you need to hook up. Then the ring needs to be placed around the factory transponder ring. I have found that the best way to do this on toyota's is to pull off the factory ring put on the other ring then put the factory back on on top of it. That is all there is to the install.

Phlame217
04-29-2008, 09:56 PM
Cool, sounds good, ive done a few alarms but never a remote start and I had no idea what was required when it came to the transponder bypass.

cortes
04-29-2008, 11:26 PM
dude how much was it? plz let me know pm if needed!!! i want one!!!

Phlame217
04-29-2008, 11:37 PM
I just did a search online and found the alarm itself for 199, the transponder bypass for 20, the proximity sensor for 10, and then three relays and some male and femail connectors for another 30. Final price = 260. This was versus 500 installed at a local shop.

cortes
04-29-2008, 11:45 PM
sweet!!! i want one !!cant afford my ride gettin taken as a hostage!:cavallo:

Spock
04-30-2008, 08:10 AM
oh yeah and how did you hook up the neutral safety so I won't start in gear?

Phlame217
04-30-2008, 10:48 AM
Well my first catch is the clutch bypass. The clutch is only bypassed if the emergency brake is activated. I simply did this through a relay in which the line from the brake is a (-) and there are two clutch lines. I used a dmm to find the line that show + when the clutch is fully pressed rather than partially pressed. This means the line is a ground state line and the clutch switch connects the circuit.

SO I used a SPDT;

87 goes to one wire at the clutch
30 goes to the other wire of the clutch
85 goes to (-) ebrake wire.
86 goes to 12v Constant.

So theres protection one.

The second line of protection:
I pulled apart the shifter cage and installed a depression switch so when the car is in neutral, the metal rod compresses a switch and closes a (-)circuit. I run this wire as so:

87 goes to one Neutral safty wire of Alarm
30 goes to 12v constant.
85 goes to (-) shifter wire circuit.
86 goes to 12v Constant.

The two lines do the two necessary things: Unless the ebrake is pulled, the clutch wont be bypassed and therefore the car wont start. Also, unless the car is in neutral, the the neutral safety on the alarm brain wont read negative and therefore wont start.

Spock
04-30-2008, 11:35 AM
Yeah I was just interested in how you had done it since there are many ways to do it.

Phlame217
04-30-2008, 11:37 AM
You know of any simpler means? Mines already done but I have a few other people wanting me to do installs on manuals.

Spock
04-30-2008, 11:46 AM
I have thought of many ways to do it but haven't tried any of them out.
One thing I though of was a magnetic switch similar to what you described with what you did.
Another was physical connection using metal attached to the cage where the linkages move creating a ground when in gear.

Those are the only ideas I can think of at the moment that I have tossed around. I think the way you did it or with a magnetic switch are the best methods. I have been too lazy to try any of the ideas