trd supercharger

[deftones1868]

sooo... i have the chance to get a complete trd supercharger kit, and get it installed at the dealership for 1500.... which will retain my warranty on my car, but after doing some reading, and researching. it adds on 40hp.... and thats about it.... would it really be worth it??? does anyone have one that could justify the kit and say its worth it??? the dealership said they have only installed 1 kit before, and that was it......... so that leads me to think even more that this is a waste??? any help or oppinions is appreciated..... thanks

[MasSchoon]

i read up on them to because i just got one and am working on putting it in. what i gather it the trd reflash is lame. a turbo kit on fastscion is only pushing 1.5psi more but is putting out 263whp so. but here is a link to the kit.

http://www.fastscions.com/fastscions-scion-xb-turbo-kit-2008-2009-2010-2011-xb2.aspx

[Human Collapse]

I like turbos myself.

The reason for their discontinuation is due to common failure in cylinder 3 according to my local scion champion. The factors to decide here are that it is almost as expensive as a turbo kit, but doesn't make as much power, even with the NST 9.5psi pulley.

Either way you go boosted, you're going to have to start using premium gas as well as the recommended fully synthetic oil if you don't already.

The only clear benefit to me is that it retains it's warranty. Outside of that I would say that the supercharger doesn't make enough power to be worth the money. This is just my opinion though.

[DeadCannon]

Also the shaft bearing loves to fail. Don't remember the exact RPMs but it was something along the lines of the bearings were rated for 10k and the shaft spun at 9.5k. Yes, it is within spec, but running something at 95% capacity will cause it to wear out faster. I know there were some people running higher rated bearings in them to help. Also there was a company making the shafts out of higher grade steel so that the shaft could be more precisely machined.

Also, IIRC, the warranty is only preserved if all TRD parts are installed by a Toyota dealer.

[TK05142009]

I know a guy that told me he went through about 4 superchargers in all on his tC

[Pampito]

I like my S/C 1st and only one so far! Ive had it since 2008 and jus do upgrades as i fnd them or find ways to increase my HP. U can get to 300HP with the S/C but its costly in the long run

Total waste of money, like they said above ts as much as a turbo with jus 40HP, Ive beaten turbo cars with my tC now its not a complete loss, my TQ is close to my HP though ,TRD map blows, with evrything i have my tC burns fuel like a bad habit, i have no tuning done what-so-EVER other than trd flash.
its what u make of it to tell u the truth, i like doin projects and this is one expensive project! I have yet to upgrade my shaft and bearings all is still stock other than pullies. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs208.snc4/38724_415409411758_573711758_5154685_651768_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5154686&id=573711758)

[Pampito]

If u havent alrdy go here and get some insight

http://www.scikotics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3414

[NFSP TC]

Been a few years sence I posted on here. However I do have much to say on this subject.
I had an 06 TC and had the first TRD S/C kit in the FL panhandle. I did full exhaust. I went through 2 SuperChargers in a year and a half. Then things seemed to be working good so I upgraded the Bosch bypass valve (stock can leak at full boost), NST 9.5 PSI Pulley, Custom intake, and Ingles torque damper. I Dyno'ed 200whp which came on very early. I raced a local military guy with a Greddy turbo TC and beet him every time. I was also putting Down 14.4 at 99.5 mph in the 1/4 mile with heavy wheel spin in first and second. Then the Supercharger failed 2 more times. Then I got pissed off when my car was broken into at the dealership and had 3grand of audio/video stolen with no reinbursment. Traded the car in on a Pontiac G8 GT. Now I have 395 Hp, 4 doors, and RWD. I did love my TC but the TRD Supercharger ruined it. Please save your money and sanity buy a turbo kit.

[Human Collapse]

Been a few years sence I posted on here. However I do have much to say on this subject.
I had an 06 TC and had the first TRD S/C kit in the FL panhandle. I did full exhaust. I went through 2 SuperChargers in a year and a half. Then things seemed to be working good so I upgraded the Bosch bypass valve (stock can leak at full boost), NST 9.5 PSI Pulley, Custom intake, and Ingles torque damper. I Dyno'ed 200whp which came on very early. I raced a local military guy with a Greddy turbo TC and beet him every time. I was also putting Down 14.4 at 99.5 mph in the 1/4 mile with heavy wheel spin in first and second. Then the Supercharger failed 2 more times. Then I got pissed off when my car was broken into at the dealership and had 3grand of audio/video stolen with no reinbursment. Traded the car in on a Pontiac G8 GT. Now I have 395 Hp, 4 doors, and RWD. I did love my TC but the TRD Supercharger ruined it. Please save your money and sanity buy a turbo kit.

Damn man, that sucks! I'm surprised they kept replacing the S/C... Then the dealership wouldn't pay up?! WTF?!

[rstc120]

this is all good to know, considering i was going to do a S/C

[Pampito]

currently still on 1st S/C recently got a new dyno with current mods

dyno: 210.3 @ 631 RPM / 70.2MPH
177.1 @ 6012 RPM / 65.7MPH

UNICHIP

Megan Headers
Megan Down-pipe
Megan Mid-Pipe

Injen Super SES Cat Back Exhaust

Weapon-R Torque Damper
Weapon-R S/C Intake

Forge 007 BPV

Mishimoto Radiator
Mishimoto Transmission Cooler

They fix my wheel spin, or so to say now i have way less than what i had with the TRD map stock

Need Fuel Pump Upgrade cuz the car starts to lean out when goin to max, so gonna install dezod fuel return system one of these days get bck to ya with numbers after that!!

Oh abd forgot I have the NST 9.5 pulley, water pump pulley, crank pulley, 20% Overdrive Alternator pulley

[THansenite]

I want to be sure to point out that while the supercharger gives approximately 40 horsepower, make sure you don't get crank horsepower and wheel horsepower confused.

The tC comes with 160 at the crank which is approximately 137 to 145 at the wheels. By adding the supercharger, you are getting bumped up to approximately 177 to 185 PEAK horsepower. You only get that 40whp boost at redline. Superchargers increast boost in a linear manner so you don't have that all the way through the revs.

Another downfall of the supercharger in regards to performance is that once you have it on, there isn't much you can do if you want to get higher numbers. Yes, you can do the bolt ons and a larger pulley, but as you can see from Pampito's numbers, you are still going to be around 200 horsepower at the wheels. With turbochargers, it is easy to just put in a heavier wastegate spring and continue to up your horsepower (this is what gets people in trouble sometimes).

A major benefit of the supercharger is that they are under boost as soon as you touch the throttle. There is no waiting for anything to spool as the belt is always turning the supercharger. That extra power is there whenever you need it. When I autocrossed my tC, I would have a very short wait for the turbo to spool coming out of corners despite having a turbo that spooled super fast.

A supercharger will be fun and will definitely add some pep to your car while keeping it under warranty. However, if you are wanting to beat local cars at the track, I think you'll be disappointed. Nothing against the guys with superchargers, but if you put two equal drivers in the seat of a supercharged car and a turbocharged car putting out the same horsepower numbers, the turbocharged car will win every time.

Another important note if you get the supercharger and want to retain the warranty is be VERY careful when adding other mods to help with horsepower. If you put on a 9psi pulley and something breaks, the warranty won't cover the motor. Check out the Magnusson-Moss Act as that explains how dealerships can refuse warranty claims on anything that could have caused the damage.

[Pampito]

Yes this is all true as THansenite (http://www.scikotics.com/forums/member.php?u=1222) said in the above, i only recommend the S/C f u plan to waste money in the long run. Ive raced the turbonetics tC b4 and of course i win off the line but once the turbo kickd in they catch up. Ive got slips from my times when i had no tune at the track and not all cars u would think would beat the S/C tC did and after a few runs the hotter te tC got the slower i ran hence the radiator upgrade!! still lots to do and i plan to push past the 300hp with the S/C but slowly cuz the tC s my DD & im excited to get my fuel system the head out there and c where it stands. And still to reach the 300hp in the link above they used water/meth. Yes i plan to use it also but it is a costly hobby to take on, motor rebuild will hopefully b next yr!!

Turbo and save ur self the time and headache unless u like constant work to maintain the S/C so it will not fail on u. Ive yet to met another person still on there 1st S/C so im pretty happy n lucky

[THansenite]

Nicely put Pampito. For some people, the supercharger is a good route, but a turbo tends to be better in many ways. I still give you a lot of credit for building a good supercharged car. I can't wait to see the numbers once you get more done in your build. Keep up the good work.

[Pampito]

Nicely put Pampito. For some people, the supercharger is a good route, but a turbo tends to be better in many ways. I still give you a lot of credit for building a good supercharged car. I can't wait to see the numbers once you get more done in your build. Keep up the good work.


Yea im proud of how far its come along and rdy to c where the new upgrades will take me. I like alot cuz everyon looks for an intercooler and dnt c one so they taunt thinkn im all noisy exhuast! then:bouss01_gif:LMAO!! Acura RSX was like wtf!! he was behind me the whole time then let him catch up givem a head start then take off he took pics and all it was funny. really wanna try water/meth hopefully in the next couple of months, did want NOS but im too reckless at times so gonna try safer route first

[TrckorTreatTc]

Im currently being offered a supercharger that needs a shaft bearing replaced for 600 with everything else included. Any thoughts??Ive heard pretty bad things about these things but my buddy has one with the BOV kit and its running just fine. would this be a good investment? or am i looking at nothing but trouble in the long run?

[DeadCannon]

How much will it cost you to replace the shaft and bearings?

[TrckorTreatTc]

i was hoping you more experienced guys could help me answer the same thing..lol..

[DeadCannon]

Ah, well then, we shall see what they reveal. I'd say no but that's just me.

[TrckorTreatTc]

i was told 300ish to repair it! actually less than i thought.

[Pampito]

Im currently being offered a supercharger that needs a shaft bearing replaced for 600 with everything else included. Any thoughts??Ive heard pretty bad things about these things but my buddy has one with the BOV kit and its running just fine. would this be a good investment? or am i looking at nothing but trouble in the long run?


http://www.tcsuperchargers.com/

[gompka]

http://www.tcsuperchargers.com/


That is my website actually, i usually post on scionlife, but I'm on here every now and then. If anyone is interested I have a new batch of shafts that should be ready in a coupe of weeks. Feel free to email me with questions gompka@tcsuperchargers.com

I would try to talk down the price of that supercharger closer to $500 and then it would be an ok deal.