PDA

View Full Version : Real power gains or BS


revvintc
03-28-2008, 07:39 PM
Does anybody know about this thing. Im not really sold on it.
Ive got a 2008 tC and I already have a CAI going to get the crank pulley and a stiffy to help out. It may be a few years before I go turbo so for now I will just have fun with all the under $200.00 bolt on's
So if somebody knows if this thing is lgit please help!!!!!!
http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Surge_Engineering/Performance_Parts/Performance_Chips/Surge_Performance_Chip/17558
fightinsk8ers
03-28-2008, 08:22 PM
bullshit! dont believe any of that crap
2dot4
03-28-2008, 09:06 PM
buy an e-manage or AEM F/IC - it's more reliable.

chips void warranties - piggybacks can uninstall quickly without evidence.
THansenite
03-28-2008, 09:19 PM
Don't buy that chip. You don't need to buy engine management unless you are turboed or have done internal work on your engine. With your mods, you will be fine running off the stock ECU.

Pulleys really help with engine revving. They act similar to a lightweight flywheel in that it is less weight for the engine to get spinning. The ETD is also a great buy. I wouldn't run my engine without one after how much it changes how the car feels.
2dot4
03-28-2008, 09:33 PM
tuning the fuel on the stock tC can net you 10whp. The ECU dumps fuel in at high rpms (thanks to VVTi), so if you trim it a little and lean out the afr's, you can see some power. As soon as I get my ignition harness working, I'm going to start tuning my stock motor, and I'll let you guys know what happens lol

They're programmed for reliability and safety from the factory - plenty of room for improvement.
revvintc
03-29-2008, 09:58 AM
Thanks guys for the info I ran up on that chip and there is a o2 censer and a a/f senser and water temp senser that are meant to work together in line with that chip to fool the ecu,but I was thinking it was risky for the money.

So I will just keep going with the other bolt on's and leave the electrical side alone accept for maybe a voltage stabilizer, When I get F/I I will get a E man.
08falcon_tC
03-29-2008, 12:52 PM
it looks like the same BS chip that you can buy on ebay. the ones labled GAIN 60WHP!!!! and are like 9.99. All they do is lean out your a/f. want to spend some cash try NST shifter cable bushings 22.00 and a creative compacts short shifter 76.00. Best money Ive spent so far.