Exhaust/Header Fitting on the 08 Tc

[MikLO]

I was just wondering does the Agency Power Exhaust fit the 08.. cuz it only says 04+ and wasn't sure. Also what about the DC headers? Of course i couldn't find one that said "for 2008" but i did find one that says 2005.. does the years differ that much that they bolt ons change? Hope someone can help :)

[Krdshrk]

All exhausts will fit.

The header will fit too. Don't go with DC or Megan though - they give the worst gains and are the raspiest.

[MikLO]

hehe well what do you suggest? reason i picked DC was because of the 4-2-1 and Ceramic.. but if you know of something better let me know ;). Reason i picked agency power exhaust is cuz minor bends and looks really nice.. even sounds nice. Just hope it gives some numbers ;). Anyways i made this thread to see if they fit and also hoping you guys would give me some info or suggest something else. Well feel free to drop your 2cents

[kris5597]

im pretty sure dc doesnt make the 4-2-1 design or at least i havent seen it pls show it to me if there is. the only 4-2-1 design i know of is the tsudo headers at speed-element.com and the weapon r headers. for tsudo u can get a header-s pipe-midpipe-axel back for 600 shipped and it sounds awesome to me. if u want the agency power exhaust then go for it. tsudo headers and s pipe is 400 shipped for just that. they are true 4-2-1 design. they replicate the weapon r headers. we get a discount from weapon r so your looking at 445 for weapon r 4-2-1 header and s pipe. thats my choices.

[MikLO]

4-2-1 DC Headers: http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/dc-sports-421-ceramic-race-header-1pc-scion-tc-2005-p-9126.html

It says for 2005 Tc but i guess it should fit 08. I already ordered my Exhaust yesterday so no looking back now ;) As for headers.. i have to to keep looking around.

[kris5597]

yea. idk about the dc. see u order the dc and u still have stock s pipe and thats 325 dollars for header then u wana good s pipe thats another 150 bucks. your looking at 475 or more. i would def recommend the tsudos or the weapon r. tsudo cheaper out of all. just check em out. they look awesome on the car seen it a couple of times. im just not so sure about the dc headers plus too expensive.

and see this is what gets me they say 4-2-1 on these headers and its clearly not. http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/dc-sports-421-ceramic-header-1pc-toyota-celica-gt-0004-p-9021.html

just warning u before u pay for something u want and u get it and its not what it says it was because of an idiot on a website fouling up ya know. but if its what u want go for it.

[MikLO]

^^ thats becuz your looking at DC Sports 4-2-1 Ceramic Header 1pc. Toyota Celica GT 00-04.. "Celica" haha. Look at the picture closely it's still split at the end like 4-2 haha. Check the link i have up there for TC.. it has the picture to the side showing its 4-2-1. Oh and about the S pipe your talking about.. The Agency Power exhaust is cat back.. meaning its from the header back cuz the cat is located on the header.. but with DC race header i delete it. So its going to be a full exhaust replacement. Here's link for Exhaust so you can check it out: http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/agency-power-tiss-catback-exhaust-system-scion-tc-04-p-32105.html So yeah as far as all the piping from Header back is all being replace with that Exhaust. I just need to know if there is anything better then the DC headers and a reason why another product is better ^^ remember DC header is 4-2-1 n Ceramic.

[hawgs74]

DC Header is NOT 4-2-1

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/hawgs74/15.jpg

[Butters]

DC Header is NOT 4-2-1

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/hawgs74/15.jpg

thats a 4-1 header.

[kris5597]

no dude agency power is cat back yes. tc has two cats one on header and one after s pipe get under there and look. dc does not make a 4-2-1 header. look at all the headers that website has. that pic is not the headers if u would look a lot of other headers they sell have the same display pic as that one. and that lil piece is just a lil fin inside the pipe maybe for better air direction and flow. tsudo and weapon r are the only 4-2-1 design everthing else is 4-1 ask anyone else they will agree. 4-1 high end power and 4-2-1 low end power. go with what u want just telling u you will be disappointed if u get the dc headers. and u will need another s pipe i promise u. most restricetive part of our exhaust. get under and look and your car.

[Krdshrk]

No, technically the header is the most restrictive.... since that's where the cat is.

[kris5597]

well in piping terms. the s pipe goes from a 3" to a 2" pipe if im correct could be wrong but i know it def does get smaller passing through it just not sure exactly what size. still something that needs to be changed out.

[MikLO]

Ahh i'm starting to understand what your saying^^> I just put my exhaust on last night and it didn't go all the way to the headers. So the pipe right before the headers i assume is the "S" pipe. Kinda sucks that the exhaust system didn't replace that ;(. Anyways now i need to find a "S" pipe to replace stock. And about the DC headers i'm clueless now haha. I Just need to find something thats nice, and going to deliever power n not sound horrible. Where da heck do i find a S pipe?

[kris5597]

wesellcarparts.com has good deals on headers and s pipes and shit. but im telling u you will come out better spending the $400 for the tsudo header and s pipe. cause if u buy dc headers then your gonna need to buy an s pipe seperate. and a good s pipe is like 120-150 depending on where and what kind. the tsudo headers comes with the s pipe as well trust me they are good. better than any others IMO.

[Krdshrk]

Invidia & Megan s-pipes are 2.25". Buschur Racing S-pipe is 2.5".

[_Keith_]

Correct me if im wrong... but im pretty sure the 05 - 06 header is different then the 07-08

[goodguy889]

Correct me if im wrong... but im pretty sure the 05 - 06 header is different then the 07-08
yes you are wrong the header i have now came off my '05. and i have an '08 now and it works perfectly

[goodguy889]

this is proof. this is my 05.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i90/goodguy889/Picture017.jpg
Then this happened.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i90/goodguy889/12-11-07_1521.jpg
then wrapped them and put them on my 08.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i90/goodguy889/Picture043.jpg
hope this answers ur question.

[kris5597]

yea but how could u be so sure that the hot fire didnt mutate the headers so that they go from 05-06 to fit an 07-08 lol. def plausible lol

[goodguy889]

lol that could be true but headers are made to stand that kinda heat and i had to inspect to make sure it didnt bend or crack.

[kris5597]

yea i understand. but hey man u still could have salvaged that 05 motor lol. there maybe a bolt or two still good in there.

[_Keith_]

yes you are wrong the header i have now came off my '05. and i have an '08 now and it works perfectly

Isnt the sensor in a different spot between the 08 and 05?

[goodguy889]

i dont think so i really never looked. it fits good.

[hawgs74]

Isnt the sensor in a different spot between the 08 and 05?

The MAF not the O2

[MikLO]

Well i already have the Agency Power Ti/SS Catback Exhaust System which is 2.25 inches.. Now does it matter what size the s pipe n headers are? cuz i see alot of 2.5 and don't know how that will flow with da exhaust.

[kris5597]

well personally i think everyone would prefer 2.5 just go ahead with the 2.5 just in case in the future u decide to change your exhaust buigger it will be 2.5. which headers have u decided to go with?

[MikLO]

Well i haven't decided on headers yet but first i'm looking for s-pipe. I want to go 2.25. It's more of a preference thing.. I just think 2.5 or higher is to big unless F/I. I would think N/A needs back pressure.. but i won't argue cuz i dont know the whole 2.25 vs 2.50 for Tc. Anyways is Megan the only company that offers the 2.25 s-pipe? I checked out Invidia and it was a 60mm which = 2.4-2.5.. unless i'm wrong.

[MikLO]

Oh and i found this about the Tsudo Headers: http://www.club-tc.com/forums/performance/1653-tsudo-warning-must-read.html .. Maybe he was just unlucky haha

[kris5597]

yea never heard of that before. i know two peeps down here with them and no prob.

[MikLO]

OKay so i been doing alil more research and hearing it would be good thing to go bigger like 2.5 s-pipe n header collecter with the exhaust being 2.25. I guess it creates good back pressure for N/A. I guess it has something to do with compression or something. Not to sure how all the machanics work but yeah.. haha. I'm pretty interested in the Invidia S-Pipe. As for the headers.. damn i can't make up my mind lol. I'm not about being cheap.. I want quality.

[kris5597]

yea i hear ya. but then again we go back to what kinda headers u want. 4-1 or 4-2-1 cause there are a lot more 4-1 companies than 4-2-1 i thought i read something about monster motor works having a 4-2-1 header but i have not gone and looked at it or even seen it before so idk. plus dont know the quality. if u want quality check these out. pick one they have s pipes too.
http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=1327
http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=1322

and u could prob get a discount by telling them u are a scikotic he is a member on the forums as well. name is wesellcarparts hit him good parts good place to order from for good
deals.

[Krdshrk]

DC Sports, Alphawerks, Megan, Strup are all 4-1 headers

MMW & Tsudo make 4-2-1.

[HyPnOtIk]

Strup sounds really good ! I would go with Strup !

[kris5597]

yea strup is good quality but they are 4-1. same for dc and all the other good companies all 4-1.

[kris5597]

where are the monster motorworks headers at i cant find them

[MikLO]

I think i want these ^^ i just don't know if this site is legit to buy from.. check it out: http://www.weaponspeed.com/Weapon-R-05-07-Scion-TC-Race-header-MMW-with-Cel-Eliminator-p-18628.html

I'm hearing such good things about this

[MikLO]

Just notice they are also found on http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/...dCategory=1327 that you posted.. if i could get a better deal from wesellcarparts n they include the Cel Eliminator then i'm game hehe.

[kris5597]

yea go wth wesellcarparts good deal. 445 shipped without cel eliminator so porb not much more with it maybe 460 shipped still better IMO. def go with that. now just to warn u i have heard a couple of ppl talk about the actual weapon r headers welds breaking so just that u understand that but i think it was just a couple of unlucky of ppl. havent heard anything about the tsudo plus they are a lil cheaper but yea those are def what i would go with. let me know how u like em i want them myself. now also another thing u will have to understand is with headers there will be some rasp. i dont think the 4-2-1 make not near as much rasp as the 4-1 but there still is some so lets just see how u like it and how it sounds before u start asking whats the best resonator to get to elminate rasp. but u should be all good to go dude. GOOD LUCK!!!

[MikLO]

Send me a link to the tsudo so i can check em out. I don't wanna just into something right away. Gotta keep researching til i know its the one hehe.

[kris5597]

ok where i buy tsudo from is http://www.speed-element.com/servlet/Categories?category=Scion%3AtC free shipping on everything. header and s pipe $400 shipped. NO CEL eliminator.

[revvintc]

Okay Im sure it may be a given but my first Question is, did your header start the fire? the other thing is Im lookin at the A-Power catback too and Im not going to put a header on yet, so does it not hook straight up to the stock exhaust mani. or right behind the first cat. If not I would like to know before I drop $600.00 on that and it wont fit.

[kris5597]

did whose header start what fire? and the a power i guess is a good exhaust which u are prob asking him. defect of agency power is that it is a 2.25 inch exhaust. best thing and prob cheapest is to go with a good sounding cat back and order the tsudo midpipe. <<< 2.5" piping cant go wrong. all cat backs hook up and the s pipe. they replace the second cat. we have two one on header and one on midpipe after s pipe. so with a catback yes u get a lil juice but a lot more with changing header as s pipe as well.

[goodguy889]

no the person who stole it and stripped it set it on fire.

[tCfrk86]

hehe well what do you suggest? reason i picked DC was because of the 4-2-1 and Ceramic.. but if you know of something better let me know ;). Reason i picked agency power exhaust is cuz minor bends and looks really nice.. even sounds nice. Just hope it gives some numbers ;). Anyways i made this thread to see if they fit and also hoping you guys would give me some info or suggest something else. Well feel free to drop your 2cents

The Agency Power exhaust is one of the best choices for the tC, just a bit expensive even on eGay. They make parts for Porsche, BMW, 350Z, Subaru, and more. They even have turbo setups for the Porsche's. And i do agree it sounds the best, and it should if you are going pay $700 for an exhaust. But the main reason it is is cause the "can" is titanium.

[revvintc]

Dude somebody jacked yo car,,,, that sucks

[gotDAMD]

Hey Matt I talked to Ron at All Star and he said he had talked to a guy at TRD and asked why supercharged tc with headers are always having problems. TRD guy says the heat generated by aftermarket headers stainless or ceramic will weaken the shaft of the s/c causing premature failure and TRD will not cover s/c's that failed if a header is installed on the vehicle.

[kris5597]

o damn that sucks. u need to send them mugs to jet hot and get them mugs coated. NO MORE HEAT THEN. prob less than factory headers and look even better than they do now. i got a brochure to jet hott if u wana take a look at it this weekend at the show if u want matt. will fix the heat prob def. SAVE the s/c and get all that heat soak to a minimum so u will pretty much just suck in cold air dude. ima send my headers there when i get them. shit check out there website as well. BEEF U NEED A S PIPE!!! and u need to get that pulley from David get some more juice to the wheels. Also get a ETD i got one coming in next week ill let ya see it and check it out at next weeks meeting. should be sick!!!

[Krdshrk]

Yes - get Jet Hot coating for the header...