Weapon R v.s. Ingralls Stiffy?

[NathanTC]

I was hopeing someone could tell me the differance

[hawgs74]

Dont buy anything from weapon-r -- Besides the ingalls one is much better

[The_Game]

Dont buy anything from weapon-r -- Besides the ingalls one is much better

Why dont buy anything from weapon r??????

[kris5597]

yea why dont buy from weapon r? i love weapon r dont hate. i would go with the weapon r personally we get a 30% discount from them as well. and nothing is dif a stiffy is a stiffy the only thing that might be dif is the mounting brackets but you should go with which ever one u want. wana ingalls get it want weapon r go with it. nothing dif but price.

[The_Game]

yea why dont buy from weapon r? i love weapon r dont hate. i would go with the weapon r personally we get a 30% discount from them as well. and nothing is dif a stiffy is a stiffy the only thing that might be dif is the mounting brackets but you should go with which ever one u want. wana ingalls get it want weapon r go with it. nothing dif but price.

Totally agree!!! Weapon R make the best headers in the market! They also make great intakes!

[hawgs74]

Totally agree!!! Weapon R make the best headers in the market! They also make great intakes!

Then why are there so many threads about welds breaking on the header? I've gone thru two myself and each time its like pulling teeth to get them to fix their mistake. Ingalls stills makes a better ETD. Do some research and u'll agree.

[Butters]

Then why are there so many threads about welds breaking on the header? I've gone thru two myself and each time its like pulling teeth to get them to fix their mistake. Ingalls stills makes a better ETD. Do some research and u'll agree.

i heard the same bout megan headers too.

no difference between the two. just looks are diff. its too simple to make one better than the other.

[hawgs74]

Heres some light reading

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=205329&highlight=weapon+header
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=180195&highlight=weapon+header
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=121530&highlight=weapon+header
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=91511&start=0
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=194395&highlight=weapon+broken

[Eros]

Heres some light reading

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=205329&highlight=weapon+header
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=180195&highlight=weapon+header
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=121530&highlight=weapon+header
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=91511&start=0
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=194395&highlight=weapon+broken

Well, there's your answer there. Ingalls ftw!

[The_Game]

Then why are there so many threads about welds breaking on the header? I've gone thru two myself and each time its like pulling teeth to get them to fix their mistake. Ingalls stills makes a better ETD. Do some research and u'll agree.

Well the people i know say its a great header!! They have had no problem wit them! My one buddy has had his for the 05 tC and bought the header right when it first came out and has had NO problem! All it is, is just a factory mess up ... all places have them .. no big deal!

[Butters]

Well the people i know say its a great header!! They have had no problem wit them! My one buddy has had his for the 05 tC and bought the header right when it first came out and has had NO problem! All it is, is just a factory mess up ... all places have them .. no big deal!

dude even a factory messup can cause someones life to be gone. look at this.
http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150394&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
this guy was doing a street circut run and he ruined his car think if he did that and then drove on the highway going 70 MPH and his wheel came off the strut like it did for him. he would be dead. so just one mess up is realy bad.

do research more bro on who has had the least mess ups that will greater your chance into getting a good product.:book:

[JoshCrane1]

im glad i went with the ingalls, it seemed like a better bet since they SPECIALIZE in suspension parts.

shit if i had that weapon r i would be in the same boat, cuz i beat the shit outa my motor. (but i have a spare) so...

[NathanTC]

dude even a factory messup can cause someones life to be gone. look at this.
http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150394&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
this guy was doing a street circut run and he ruined his car think if he did that and then drove on the highway going 70 MPH and his wheel came off the strut like it did for him. he would be dead. so just one mess up is realy bad.

do research more bro on who has had the least mess ups that will greater your chance into getting a good product.:book:

I dont think a cracked header can make your struts crack. :p I dont really see it being life threatening either.

[kris5597]

yea i agree just because u buy a header and it just so happens to crack then i dont think your car is gonna blow up. and for weapon r headers i have not had any problems with anything weapon r that i have bought. now just because u buy headers and they break doesnt mean every single one is gonna break. now weapon r headers are the best design for headers out there for the tc. if u dont want weapon r then get the tsudo replicas friend had them and loved them no problems. i have never even heard of a header cracking unless its some cheap ebay one and i haVe still seen one of those last. sorry for your problems with weapon r but i would still not down them for their product no one is perfect. o well get what yall want its yalls money and everybodys opinion matters so spend it wisely, u get a bad product then sorry what else u want me to say?

[Joe xtC]

Don't buy either......

Just leave it stock. The ETD that is currently on your car is fine because that is the way the car was built. (<---joke).

Adding mods is like putting a bow on a lions tail....you may be able to get away with it, but now and then it's gonna eat you.

I have MMW Header + S-pipe and the Weapon-R ETD. I have not had a problem with either. I actually enjoy both products.

[NathanTC]

Don't buy either......

Just leave it stock. The ETD that is currently on your car is fine because that is the way the car was built. (<---joke).

That is a funny joke.... whenever you shift hard into second its supposed to make a big thump/bang! :lol:

[The_Game]

Don't buy either......

Just leave it stock. The ETD that is currently on your car is fine because that is the way the car was built. (<---joke).

Adding mods is like putting a bow on a lions tail....you may be able to get away with it, but now and then it's gonna eat you.

I have MMW Header + S-pipe and the Weapon-R ETD. I have not had a problem with either. I actually enjoy both products.

See it all depends on the you get! And like Kris said .. What does a coilover have to do wit a header? lol just randomily brought it! But i mean Ebay is shitty stuff for headers .. you buy theres and you are buying what ya pay for ... there is always duds in peoples product! If you get Ingralls i am sure someone will say how shitty they are and it was the worst product they have ever had because one company cant make a product successfully ALL the time. It just dont happen .. there is ALWAYS a bad one in the bunch!

[JoshCrane1]

That is a funny joke.... whenever you shift hard into second its supposed to make a big thump/bang! :lol:
if installed correctly, its hardly noticeable, unless its real cold.

i always forget i have mine, and sometimes i wonder if it broke or somethin, cuz its so damn quiet, but i put my windows up and turn down the radio and hit the gas and i hear that reassuring hum.

[NathanTC]

if installed correctly, its hardly noticeable, unless its real cold.

i always forget i have mine, and sometimes i wonder if it broke or somethin, cuz its so damn quiet, but i put my windows up and turn down the radio and hit the gas and i hear that reassuring hum.

Yea... im talking about with out it. Second gear is a killer if you dont have one and you shift shift hard. Im obviously not driving it that hard anymore. But when I get the ETD KCIR is going to become my best friend.

[TCReyvan]

I'm glad someone posted this I was gonna ask lol thanks for the info and the debate, still leaves me kinda confused though. I guess I will take a look at both and just ask myself what do i think after looking at both of them.

[JoshCrane1]

Yea... im talking about with out it. Second gear is a killer if you dont have one and you shift shift hard. Im obviously not driving it that hard anymore. But when I get the ETD KCIR is going to become my best friend.
kcir?

[NathanTC]

I'm glad someone posted this I was gonna ask lol thanks for the info and the debate, still leaves me kinda confused though. I guess I will take a look at both and just ask myself what do i think after looking at both of them.

Lol if it helps any.... I think im gonna go with the weapon R.:up:

[NathanTC]

kcir?

Kansas City International Raceway. My bad... I forget that a ton of people dont live here.

[Butters]

I dont think a cracked header can make your struts crack. :p I dont really see it being life threatening either.

it was just a example. but if your exhaust cracked and popped off and caught the ground you could ruin the underside of your car. not life threatening but not something i would want.

[kris5597]

yea but that would take a lot of IFs. but its whatever all im saying is to get what yall want. people have an opinion on everything dont matter what it is. some say good some say bad. just get it if u want it. i would go with the weapon r myself as well.

[NathanTC]

it was just a example. but if your exhaust cracked and popped off and caught the ground you could ruin the underside of your car. not life threatening but not something i would want.

It would take some mad skill for the exaust to get past the sub frame. I dont really think it could get to the ground. A cross member or the subframe itself would stop it.

[Butters]

It would take some mad skill for the exaust to get past the sub frame. I dont really think it could get to the ground. A cross member or the subframe itself would stop it.

no but your oil pain is next to it. im just saying ok. if you wanna go out and buy a cheap part that isnt effecient and to wind up buying it again go ahead. IMO i would still do research and read reviews on it. i was just trying to help. i have had this exhaust problem happen to me once and it damaged my whole exhuast system and broke some electrical.

[JoshCrane1]

what is the price difference between the two? if its only a few bucks then y is everyone sweating? just spend a few more bucks and get a proven flawless design from, let me say it again, a SUSPENSION COMPANY.:deadhorse:

[The_Game]

What are you confused about man? Maybe we can help??

[JoshCrane1]

What are you confused about man? Maybe we can help??
who to vote for, osama bin laden or hillary cluntin, i mean clinton.:-?

[The_Game]

who to vote for, osama bin laden or hillary cluntin, i mean clinton.:-?

HAHA i know right?? If this guy named oboma wins it wont be long before he gets assasinated!! I bet he wont last two weeks!! lol

[JoshCrane1]

HAHA i know right?? If this guy named oboma wins it wont be long before he gets assasinated!! I bet he wont last two weeks!! lol
I hope she's already hit menopause, or else we are fuc***d.

i can see it now, 1 week a month she will be bombing another country, and the house and senate will be cowering under their desks.

[The_Game]

I hope she's already hit menopause, or else we are fuc***d.

i can see it now, 1 week a month she will be bombing another country, and the house and senate will be cowering under their desks.

HAHAHAHAHA :thanks: for the laugh!! I could def see that shit happening!!