questions about intakes??

[theatreofmagic]

I'm fixing to ask some really newbie questions so please bear w/ me.

Is there really any noticable difference in running a stock intake to a "high performance" intake?

any difference in running a short ram to a CAI?

What is the difference in lets say Weapon R secret weapon intake to a 25.00$ intake on ebay?

What are the differences between brands besides the name plate? Is their one better than the rest?

Just wondering cause to me it just looks like shiny aluminum tubing w/ a filter on the end. Now I know that the filter itself can make a huge difference but really how much difference could their be from one high end brand to another? or even from say OBX.

Could someone please enlighten me on the ways of the intake? I would really appreciate it.

Thanks

[TunerTrifecta]

Shiny metal tubing with a filter is all it really is! :) You're on the right track, when looking at something you feel is complicated, simplify it. Simple is always the best way to think as far as cars go!

Anywho, Fujita and AEM make the 2 best intakes for the tC, both have been dyno proven, and the difference between the 2 is only like 2 HP.

The biggest difference in intakes is 1 or both of 2 things:
1.) quality of welds, which leads to smoothness of the interior walls
2.) Amount of bends and the angle these bends are at.

Smoother and less angles=best.

As far as short ram vs CAI, I believe that CAI's make more sense, as you're drawing in fresh, cold air from outside the engine bay, but your intake pipe is still suffering heat soak from the head in the engine bay.

Short ram is drawing in air that's been warmed inside the engine bay.

[fightinsk8ers]

when running a short ram or cai you will hear the air being sucked in its alot louder and sounds really cool when you hit the gas hard.....cai takes in colder air from outside the engine bay...colder air =more dense which leads to more power...you will definitely notice a difference. I would stay away from ebay intakes becuase they are cheaply made and you always might not recieve exactly waht you want. go on youtube.com and look at scions with cai's and short ram intakes you will hear the difference! hope this helps any other questions just ask :)

[JoshCrane1]

just take note, cai and flood prone areas dont mix well. im on s-techs and if i had cai and hit a puddle deeper than a foot, sputter sputter then plooof.:mad:

[fightinsk8ers]

just take note, cai and flood prone areas dont mix well. im on s-techs and if i had cai and hit a puddle deeper than a foot, sputter sputter then plooof.:mad:


good point! i forgot about that im gonna be on s-techs with a cai but there is no flooding around here thank god that would suck! good lookin out8)

[Hunner]

I'm on s-techs and i've got the TRD CAI intake (wouldn't recommend unless you just want the TRD. Nothing wrong with it, GREAT product so far, cool as hell. But you can get the same performance for less money is all i'm sayin) anyways, TRD has a bypass valve on their intake. If it doesn't come with a bypass valve then its worth the 50 bucks or however much to get one and put it on whatever intake you get.

*BTW a bypass valve essentially gets rid of any water that you might get in the intake.

[bipolarscion]

:wallb:tooo some of the comments above



the main purpose of the after market intakes are to get a different source of air into your engine.

with the long type cold air intake, the source of air is down by your bumper, were cooler air can be reached. ( ever notice your car seems to run better, pull harder when it is cold out, and you just started your car.) your motor emits alot of heat which heats the air, the air that is going right into your motor. With the cold air intake cooler air means, faster throttle response, and more torque, and more horsepower. another byproduct of a cold air intake is the sound. The tc's stock intake was designed after a ram style intake, which gave it a little added perfromance, but it still restrictive. The after markets pipes have a bigger diamiter so a larger volume of air is available, Although the throttle is on a the small side.

the short ram intakes are mainly for sound and less performance then the long cold air intake. They are in the same postion as the stock intake just less restrictive. they are still sucking in that hot air. They are generally louder then Cai because there closer to the passenger cabin.

dont be fooled by the numbers. When looking for an intake, dont look at the numbers, (by this i mean dyno numbers) look at the quality of the product. many intakes have the ability to made into a ram or a cold air. so you have that peace of mind of not flooding your motor.

ebay intakes. unless these intakes say, injen, weopon r, fugita, Aem, typhoon, STAY AWAY. Home made intakes are no bueno. the above listed brands are designed to work with your car, and ave the correct bends, and the place to put your maf/Iat sensor.

[NateV]

I have an 07' model tC. I came across this Intake, http://ssuperstore.com/product_info.php/products_id/299
It says 05' and up. Think it will fit an 07'? , and is it a quality product?
All the other intakes are like 200 - 500 :censored: dollars and I just can't spend that for 3-7 HP.

[TunerTrifecta]

the 05-06 AFM location is different than the 07.

best thing you can do to any aluminum intake (short ram or cold air) is heat wrap it. Keeps the piping from absorbing as much heat.

[The_Dalai_Lloyd]

I have an 07' model tC. I came across this Intake, http://ssuperstore.com/product_info.php/products_id/299
It says 05' and up. Think it will fit an 07'? , and is it a quality product?
All the other intakes are like 200 - 500 :censored: dollars and I just can't spend that for 3-7 HP.

I've never heard of scion fx b4. I have the Weapon R short ram. It's all right. There's not really any difference (besides sound) between any of the intakes.

The MAF sensor was designed a little different for the 07 tC, so it won't fit without modification. I'm not sure, but I don't think it would be worth buying an intake that's designed for an 05-06. Hope I helped.

[NateV]

Thanks for the info.

[JoshCrane1]

Wr Sr Intake All The Way

[THansenite]

Contrary to what most people usually say, you will not feel any difference in the amount of power when you install a CAI. You can expect a 5-7 horsepower increase tops unless you have several supporting mods. Even then, it will only give you an extra one or two ponies. Your quarter times should be slightly quicker and it definitely helps your engine bay's looks and sound. It is a good mod to start out with since it adds a little power and some eye-candy to your car.

As with pretty much any aftermarket part, you get what you pay for. The ones that cost more are typically better quality, have better finishes, and almost always have better fitment. If you buy a cheap product, more often than not, you will get cheap looking results. Also, use caution on eBay. Even though a product may say Injen or AEM on the product, it might still be a counterfit. I am not saying they all are, just be cautions and wary of what you are buying.

[JoshCrane1]

Contrary to what most people usually say, you will not feel any difference in the amount of power when you install a CAI. You can expect a 5-7 horsepower increase tops unless you have several supporting mods. Even then, it will only give you an extra one or two ponies. Your quarter times should be slightly quicker and it definitely helps your engine bay's looks and sound. It is a good mod to start out with since it adds a little power and some eye-candy to your car.

As with pretty much any aftermarket part, you get what you pay for. The ones that cost more are typically better quality, have better finishes, and almost always have better fitment. If you buy a cheap product, more often than not, you will get cheap looking results. Also, use caution on eBay. Even though a product may say Injen or AEM on the product, it might still be a counterfit. I am not saying they all are, just be cautions and wary of what you are buying.

dito

[Mr_Meaty]

We put the weapon R on my buddies car. It sounds MEAN! And he started pulling on my after 3rd gear. I got the jump off the line, but he started catching me in the higher RPM range. (just so you know, this was before I installed my turbo!)

[fightinsk8ers]

lol i would certainly hope it was before your turbo lol im getting the WR sr intake

[Mr_Meaty]

:lol: yeah! I actually took him off the line, but it was after I had installed my motor mounts, so I had no wheel hop, but he still caught up to me in the top end.

Alot of guys have bad things to say about WR quality, but smoknscion (my buddy brian) has had his on for like 9 months now and he's had no issues. He loves it. I think you will to!

[fightinsk8ers]

awesome i cant wait to order...just gotta pay off my credit card first haha...i got my torque dampner on! sounds mean as hell

[JoshCrane1]

yeah the WR SR intake is good, i have it. and it also goes with the ebay filter heat shield polished for 20bucks, well worth it. and the ingalls is badass, i just installed mine last week, i added a few more o-rings to the endlinks to help with the noise, cuz ingalls only sends 2 which is retarded cuz u need 4. waitin to install my greddy air/div plate till my grill lights go in, and my obx hoses and CF rear lower strut bar will be in wed.


will have pics very soon of everything.