pulley installation

[fightinsk8ers]

ok im looking to buy an aftermarket pulley for my 05 tc and im pretty sure i saw a nice write up of how to do it on here but i cant find it!!!!!!!!!! could someone help me find it or give me the link to it thanks. or just tell me how i would need to do it thanks alot everyone


craig

[Firestorm]

Are you talking Crank Pulley?

Man make sure you have a pulley puller and hope the belt doesnt come loose or fall off like mine did -_-

[fightinsk8ers]

i know there was a nice write up on here but i still cant find it can somebody help me please!

[hotwheelsrs1]

i dint need a puller, just jack up your car, pull off ur right front wheel, remove the small black shield that is in front of the crank pulley, leave the belt on, and loosen the bolt on the pulley, then remove the belt, take off the stock pulley, theres a small mark on the stock and aftermarket pullies, put it in the same spot and put the bolt back in, put ur belt back on and put everything else back and thats it. its really quite easy, just go for it.

[fightinsk8ers]

alright thanks man

[bipolarscion]

hey craig you shoulda asked me. take the pass side wheel off and the shroud, then take a IMPACT and take the bolt off the pulley, then take a 19 mm socket and out it on the tenstioner, and pull towards you (if you have two people have one slip belt off the crank if one person slip off alt) the take to prybars and rock the pully out. Then install the lightend one make sure you pay attenton to the key . make sure it is all the say in, and hand start the crank bolt and hit it with a IMPACT. and then put the belt on. start the car and watch the pully to make sure it is on straight then reinstall the shroud and then wheel.

note if you do not feel comfortable with doing this mod by your self have someone help you. if you install this part bad, you will be buying a new motor. These pulleys have gotten a bad rap because people not knowing what they are doing throw them on and they are put on wrong. It looks and sounds easy but if it is a hair off you will destroy your bearings and you will start leaking outta seals and it is new motor time.

another note, that bolt put up with a lot of forces on it, and it essently holds that pulley on you really feel you can get it tight enough with normal hand tools?

[fightinsk8ers]

im gonna call you over when im doing this

[Joe xtC]

Here is the DIY on Scion Life. It's a really good write up for the NST full pulley set. Obviously all you have to do is just the crank. Hope it helps.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=100062&highlight=nst+pulley+diy

[crank_101]

DUDE THAT SHIT IS HARD!!!!!!

if anyhting have a pro or someone who knows what they are doing right there with you....cuz ummm yea i effed the timing in my old car soo
yeah its a bitch

[fightinsk8ers]

im gonna have bipolarscion come by and help me.....he is a toyota tech:)

[crank_101]

:shock:

[2dot4]

on the tC, you have a timing belt (outside) and a timing chain (not seen). The chain controls your timing, the belt drives your accessories (a/c, power steering, alternator - none of which have a TDC (top dead center) setting, so it doesn't matter if they move.) You're not going to mess anything up.

Guaranteed you'll need an impact wrench, unless you're feeling ballsy.

Once you get to the pulley, just have a buddy use a 19mm socket to loosen the tensioner bolt (sitting right in the middle of all the pulleys - access it from up above, not from the wheel well) - to loosen it, you just pull the wrench towards the front of the car and hold it there until you or your friend can slip the belt off the crank pulley....use the impact to loosen the crank bolt, pull the whole thing off, clean the crank bolt, slap the new pulley on. Loosen the tensioner again, while your buddy or you tightens the new pulley down and slips the belt back on.

With 2 people and an impact wrench, you'll be done in 30 minutes - pretty dang easy. First time I've ever messed with a timing belt, and I was driving again in 30 minutes.

As a safety precaution*** before you take off, turn the car on when you're done, before you put the wheel back on, and watch your pulleys and belt - make sure there's no wobbles and that the belt doesn't shift. If it needs adjusting, turn the car off and release the tensioner, have your buddy retighten the pulley and check it again. If the belt snaps, you'll still be able to drive, but you'll be running off battery power, which will die fairly quickly. But it gives you a chance to pull over. So even in the worst case scenario (which is HIGHLY unlikely), you're still safe. All you'll need is a new belt, a new battery, and a new pair of shorts. lol

Very good mod - very easy install - excellent choice.

[crank_101]

on the tC, you have a timing belt (outside) and a timing chain (not seen). The chain controls your timing, the belt drives your accessories (a/c, power steering, alternator - none of which have a TDC (top dead center) setting, so it doesn't matter if they move.) You're not going to mess anything up.

Guaranteed you'll need an impact wrench, unless you're feeling ballsy.

Once you get to the pulley, just have a buddy use a 19mm socket to loosen the tensioner bolt (sitting right in the middle of all the pulleys - access it from up above, not from the wheel well) - to loosen it, you just pull the wrench towards the front of the car and hold it there until you or your friend can slip the belt off the crank pulley....use the impact to loosen the crank bolt, pull the whole thing off, clean the crank bolt, slap the new pulley on. Loosen the tensioner again, while your buddy or you tightens the new pulley down and slips the belt back on.

With 2 people and an impact wrench, you'll be done in 30 minutes - pretty dang easy. First time I've ever messed with a timing belt, and I was driving again in 30 minutes.

As a safety precaution*** before you take off, turn the car on when you're done, before you put the wheel back on, and watch your pulleys and belt - make sure there's no wobbles and that the belt doesn't shift. If it needs adjusting, turn the car off and release the tensioner, have your buddy retighten the pulley and check it again. If the belt snaps, you'll still be able to drive, but you'll be running off battery power, which will die fairly quickly. But it gives you a chance to pull over. So even in the worst case scenario (which is HIGHLY unlikely), you're still safe. All you'll need is a new belt, a new battery, and a new pair of shorts. lol

Very good mod - very easy install - excellent choice.
nice write up, however, it isn't as simple as you make it seem..... you are going to sweat and struggle with just about every step; there is no cake in the process of changing the pulley.

[fightinsk8ers]

thanks that helps alot and like i said when i get it im gonna wait until bipolarscion can come by and help me with this...he already installed his on his tc so it should go smoothly thanks again for the nice write up i appreciate it!

[Joe xtC]

I have installed a ZPI crank, uninstalled it, and then installed the NST pulley set all by myself. It's isnt hard. I did the uninstall of the ZPI crank Pulley and Install of the NST pulley set in less than 2 hours by myself. It isn't that hard.

[BrytC06]

^^^^ I totally agree... take out a total of maybe 5 bolts, Replace pulley and torque the crank bolt back down to specs..... VERY simple.... maybe YOU should let someone help ya.... well I guess he could hold the belt tensioner....

[2dot4]

nice write up, however, it isn't as simple as you make it seem..... you are going to sweat and struggle with just about every step; there is no cake in the process of changing the pulley.

What was so difficult about your experience? The only thing that went wrong with mine is the impact wrench wasn't powerful enough so I had to go get a new one...that's about it.

It was a lot less annoying and more hassle-free than installing a header IMO.

[crank_101]

I an 18 year old, like most of the scion scene people don't know what the hell your talking about when you talk about tools and what not. I have been working on cars since 12 years old i know enuf to get me around a shop. however, i was simply putting myself in a completely clueless person's shoes. And my first time working on my car when putting cams and pulleys (srt-4) it was a bitch and a horrible experience;) and someone told me hey kid its easy all you need is .....and bam messed up and well i got it fixed . but the point is that for someone my age 18-21 might not have a clue:doh: what you are talking about in your write up.


By the way, its a very good write up.

[BrytC06]

but the point is that for someone my age 18-21 might not have a clue:doh: what you are talking about in your write up.



I'm 22 and I have been working on car equally as long... but you know we all only start really learning when we mess with our own cars!!! So age is not the issue it is simply this willingness to go learn through trial and error 8-)
:doc:<-----Im in school to be one of these guys!.... and we learn by experience, surely it applys to turning wrenches

[2dot4]

...And my first time working on my car when putting cams and pulleys (srt-4) it was a bitch and a horrible experience;) and someone told me hey kid its easy all you need is .....and bam messed up

that's cause you replaced cams - to change cams, you remove the timing chain AND belt, leaving your timing vulnerable. We're only talking about the crank pulley, where you only remove the belt...the timing chain keeps the engine timing intact...so there's much less that can go wrong with a crank pulley swap.

cams are much more complicated, and you have to pay attention the TDC marks...but that's another thread.

[crank_101]

:up: I acknowledge your knowledge of cars/mechanic skills...... I know I am not talking to some yuppy that thinks he/she knows what they're talking about.

[fightinsk8ers]

ok guys lol I met up with bipolarscion (jeremy) tonight and we did the pulley installation at his buddies house....it seriously took 5 minutes..!!!!!!!!!! not even kidding...its alot easier than it sounds you just need an impact wrench. takes the bolt off in a sec. and i can feel a great difference.

[Joe xtC]

Told ya

[bipolarscion]

i am happy i could help you out man. Remember i told you that some people on this site are jag bags and ass hats. years of experience don't measure up to common sense.... work smarter not harder

[crank_101]

i am happy i could help you out man. Remember i told you that some people on this site are jag bags and ass hats. years of experience don't measure up to common sense.... think smarter not harder
...okay so since I made a comment of how easy its not, I am a jag bag and an ass hat? hmmmm..... why can't someone's point be recognized as a good point in a different perspective? INstead its recognized as working harder not smarter and being a Jag Bag and An Ass hat......wow.......purely disappointed with the attitude towards someone you don't know.

















And if that comment wasn't for me this post is to defend the people it is for. This is a Effin Club, and last time I checked we are all on the same side here. :neutral:

[fightinsk8ers]

ok now lets not get hostile up in here...

[bipolarscion]

fighten skaters posted and asked how it was done and i posted the way i did it. and then people post on how it is not that easy...... and fighting skater verified everything i did on my reply before his eyes and it was done and running with in 25 mins. that is all the proof i need.
i classify jag bags and asshats people to come in to advice threads and post their personal opinions. He asked how it was done i answered his post. then people come in read my comment and say it is not that easy. It was for me, and fightenskater was my witness. so peace out! end of story.

[hawgs74]

25 minutes for just the crank maybe. But not for the whole set. Took me 2hrs and Im no rookie. :naughty:

[crank_101]

fighten skaters posted and asked how it was done and i posted the way i did it. and then people post on how it is not that easy...... and fighting skater verified everything i did on my reply before his eyes and it was done and running with in 25 mins. that is all the proof i need.
i classify jag bags and asshats people to come in to advice threads and post their personal opinions. He asked how it was done i answered his post. then people come in read my comment and say it is not that easy. It was for me, and fightenskater was my witness. so peace out! end of story.
whata douche bag

[Budha]

Ahhhh come on guys....





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[Joe xtC]

This argument is getting retarded.

Bottom line. The crank pulley can be hard if you don't have the right tools. Make sure the car is off but in gear to prevent it from spinning. Impact wrench makes taking the bolt off easy. Unless you have long arms and a pole extension for the tensioner, you will need help. Make sure you put the belt back on correctly. If you are installing the full pulley set, an extra set of hands is very useful. It can be done solo (because that is how I did mine), but it can be very difficult to do. The important thing is to make sure you already bought a belt of a different size for the NST pulley set. Also make sure that you have put the belt on correctly. A second set of hands and eyes make this much easier. Have someone check over your work.

For some this is impossible, other it is hard, and others it is easy... deal with it. This was an easy install for me, but there are people out there who can't change a tire... so for the sake of them screwing something major up, let them have someone else install it.

For example, I'd only charge my local guys $25 to install the crank pulley only and $60 for the NST pulley set if they were only wanting me to install it while they wait or drop the car off. I take 2 hours to install the NST because I want to make sure it is done correctly (i also took a test drive too).