Im sprayin...

[07tCguy]

I just traded some HIDs for a 10lb NX bottle. Im goin to a place called Delk performance next week to get all my lines and my other nessecary parts. I want just wanting to know. If a 55 shot will harm anything in my motor. And, is a 55shot the highest I can go or could I do like a 70shot.

[_Keith_]

You need to tune for it too........

Not just slap it in and push the button..

[Krdshrk]

You should be Ok with a 50 shot but I'd be very careful about it. Any amount nitrous could blow something up.

[JoshCrane1]

dont go past 50 shot on stock motor, pistons dont respond well.

[Joe xtC]

I am too. I use a 50 on a dry system. you can use 35 without really needing to change your plugs. Fill with 93 octane though. On a 50 or 55 shot, you need colder plugs. Only go one or two steps colder. I went two steps on my plugs. Everything runs great. I have put about 8 bottles through on the 50 with no problems. Use a wide open throttle switch instead of a push button. It's fun but be safe.

[07tCguy]

I was told to get my ecu reflashed for the nitrous...

[Krdshrk]

Whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about.

The only ecu reflash for the tC is the Supercharger reflash... and that's for superchargers only - it's not good with turbos or nitrous.

Why would you intentionally screw with the ecu (Which runs 100% of the time) for when you're using nitrous (which will be what, 5% of the time)?

[JoshCrane1]

i was scratching my head on that ecu flash as well, just wasnt positive.

[shizzzon]

what kind of boost is expected from a 35 shot on top of having the Dezod Turbo?

I know the purpose of the Dezod kit was to get the most power from the tC without having to change out parts due to stress. Would just injectin the NOS for a few seconds on this particular setup still lead to problems if the internals of the motor were not upgraded?

[Joe xtC]

Spray it into your inter cooler for your turbo set up. It should help cool air temperatures down. After some research, I guess the general rule is every 10 degrees cooler is a 1% gain. So 10 degrees on a 250hp car is 2.5hp. I'm not sure how much it would cool down the intercooler, but investing in an intercooler spray bar would be ideal.

[2dot4]

50 shot needs a tune at WOT, or you'll lean out like mad.

If all you got was the bottle, when you go buy the rest, go for a wet shot setup. safer and you don't have to worry about leaning out since it pumps extra fuel with the nitrous.

[bottled]

im running a direct port 75 wet shot.... and nothing is wrong with my engine only problem i had was when i was hooking up the wires accidentaly grounded the positive through the intake which fried the mass airflow sensor.... lol.... but the only thing i found with the nitrous and need a tune is getting more fuel in thats why you buy a wet kit...... and if you go to a 100 shot thats when you need colder plugs not till then.... i have proof.... i have put like 15 bottles of a 75 nx wet shot through my car no problems....if you have specific questions about the set ups pm me i will help you out...... and nitrous is bad for boost..... just buy the intercooler spray kit you will see much better gains over the whole rpm band not just 1/6 of it

[shizzzon]

if you use nitrous on a turbo setup to specifically cool the turbo setup down further, then am i correct in saying that someone could run a, let's say a 300 shot of NOS just to further cool down the flow and it would just be like a 10 shot, except it would just cool down further?

Also, i have read about for every 10 degrees is 1% gain as well. How quickly does that work though? 2 sec boost(or spray), 4 sec, 1 sec? and how long would it last before the temp reaches where it previously was?

Of course i'm not lookin for second specifics but just a general answer.

[07tCguy]

well i decided that i wanna sell the bottle. Im not looking forward to sprayin nomore. I would rather sell it and spend the money towards my turbo parts.

Anybody want it. Its a NX 10lb bottle. I just want 100 obo +shipping.

[bottled]

my bottle just went outta date and has to get rebuilt so i will offer you 50 plus shipping

[shizzzon]

Ok, forget my last reply, i do not want an Ntercooler setup anyway, sounds too much like for drag racing only compared to street performance so i got a better idea... :)

If you got turbo, you gotta have NOS, it's that simple....why?
After i get my Turbo installed, i'm gonna go with Nitrous Express and have their nos system installed so if i were to go into WOT from a take off, the EFI nos system would inject nitrous into your car until the turbo has completely spooled up. When the turbo has spooled up, lets say at 3000rpm, the nos system will shut off immediately and let the turbo take over. Sounds like a winner to me. According to this website i read this on, i 'm gonna need, after bein on Nitrous Express's site prob about $1000+ worth of nos equipment but that's still good. I gotta talk to my tuner about the setup but the way it is explained to me as i described it above is basically having a near consistent hp curve on a dyno from take off to redline. the nos system puts out 75hp (single line) and the turbo (dezod) boosts 100hp, i like to see that dyno graph if they are serious.

[Krdshrk]

It's not NOS, It's NITROUS.

[shizzzon]

i know but it helps abbreviate

[Joe xtC]

honda = duh (abbreviated?)

[bottled]

NX does not make a NOS system.... they make a nitrous system and NOS is another company that makes nitrous systems..... and so does ZEX.....it was kinda confusing reading that post....... and you can save a ton of money peicing the kit together rather than just buying it all from one company.... keep this in mind...... NOS makes way better solonoids and NX or nitrous express makes a way better nozzle called the shark nozzle.... and go to a local hardware store and buy your AN fittings and have them make the line.... when i did my direct port kit through nx or nos the line was like 50 bucks for a 2 foot section or somthing outrageous....and the company that made mine charged me 20 bucks for all eight 2 foot lengths of line....

[2dot4]

I understand the frustration of NOS=nitrous, but every single one of you knew exactly what he meant - lay off, it's not that big of a deal.

NOS is a brand - but when you read his post, were you honestly confused? If so, open your brain and learn to interpret.

[shizzzon]

you gotta be jokin when you actually were confused about how i worded that a few days ago, right?

That'd be like saying that i went to Alpine's website to order their brand new Pioneer Sound Quality kit.

The information that you did leave was helpful though. Everything is so expensive yet so cheap at the same time. Try to explain that to a noob, hehe.

[2dot4]

Nitrous rules of thumb:

If you want more than a 35 shot, use a wet kit.

Always spend the money for saftey equipment, like emergency shut off's, bottle warmers, WOT switches (which is a given for all fly by wire kits), etc etc.

If you don't know how every piece of the kit works, don't install it yourself. To save money, install the bottle and bracket where you want it, run all the lines through the firewall or under the car yourself, and just have the shop make the connections and do all the stuff you don't understand. They'll charge another $200 to mount the bottle and run the lines.

DO NOT COMBINE nitrous and boost on a motor with stock internals - you will blow something up. Upgrade your internals and make sure the motor is built to handle all the instant torque. New head studs, new head gasket, new pistons, new connecting rods, etc. are a great place to start. Build the motor before you ever add nitrous to boost. It's like slapping a turbo on a stock motor and cranking it up to 22psi for it's first run. Not smart.

Nitrous express makes a fly by wire kit for under $700 for the tC - as far as I know, it's the cheapest fly-by-wire kit on the market, and NX has some high quality shit.

[shizzzon]

i don't want nitrous on while in boost, that's the key. I want nitrous to shoot me up to boost then shut off. I've already talked to NX about that.

The only thing that confuses me is NX's lines (not dry or wet, i know i want wet) such as Fly-By-Wire, Custom EFI and All Import EFI. I "assume" these are all wet and i notice they all use the Shark nozzle which is supposedly what i should get but besides that, they all have the same specs and can't distinguish them apart.

[2dot4]

You're talking about spraying at less than 3000rpms...even if it works, all it's going to do is give you tons of wheel spin. Even the guys running 30psi have to adjust the turbo timing to eliminate too much low-end boost so they can get traction. Save the $700, and use it to properly build your motor...then get it down the road when your motor can handle it. It's useless to propel yourself into boost with nitrous...it can be done, but it's impractical if you want my honest opinion - definitely not worth $700.

If you have a tC, you need the fly by wire kit - the tC doesn't have a throttle cable or rotor, so the traditional WOT switch won't work. The fly by wire kit has a signal box that interprets your electronic throttle signal and determines if you're at WOT via electric signal rather than physical means. It's more accurate and doesn't require constant adjustment like the old throttle switches required.

[shizzzon]

ah, ok, thanks man. I'll save some money, ;) . I found this local engine service center in my area that said they are willing to guide and rebuild any part of the engine necessary to keep the engine just as reliable as it was beforehand. They are interested in helpin me out so i need to really buy the turbo first, but after i get new tires.

[Krdshrk]

If you have a tC, you need the fly by wire kit - the tC doesn't have a throttle cable or rotor, so the traditional WOT switch won't work. The fly by wire kit has a signal box that interprets your electronic throttle signal and determines if you're at WOT via electric signal rather than physical means. It's more accurate and doesn't require constant adjustment like the old throttle switches required.

Don't you mean DRIVE by wire? :rofl:

If a tC is flying, there's something wrong!

And yes - Nitrous would be completely useless before you spool. Just learn how to launch.

[2dot4]

drive by wire refers to a steering system that uses wires instead of a steering column - it has made appearances in many concept cars, but to my knowledge there is no production car using it yet.

fly by wire refers to the throttle - wires instead of a cable. Don't ask me why they named it that, but they did.

[Joe xtC]

Just to add my 2 cents.... are you saying that you are only looking to spray up to 3000rpms? What are you launching at? I would think that you could only spray for a half a second at that rate.

[shizzzon]

2Dot4 has talked me out of doing that due to tire spin which i believe could\would happen but that setup is completely possible and setups do exist for that sole purpose to completely eliminate turbo lag for any driving scenario.

[TunerTrifecta]

it's definately do-able, but impractical on a street driven car. Most of your professional draggers actually are spraying ON and THROUGH the launch.