Turbo

[TRD TC]

ok so i don't know much about engine stuff so i have an automatic cause i have tried to learn to drive manual and would love to have one but just can't concept it .. i always stall out changing gears, lol so my question is

is it worth putting a turbo on an automatic .. i would like to gain some more horsepower

[Hix]

I DD a 300+ whp tc automatic. Very much worth it even if you only stick to 6 or 8 psi. +100 whp is always noticed :)

EDIT: Best part is when I am not getting on it I can ride comfortable even in traffic with no issues.

[HellBoy]

How many miles have you drove your dd on before you got the turbo installed and since you have the turbo installed noticed any problems or so on?

[infidel_inside]

If you plan on pushing some serious power your going to have to build the tranny up... I remember reading on scionlife where some one was pushing around 350 and his built tranny was slippin his next mod was a 5 speed manual swap..

[DeadCannon]

Krdshrk runs a GReddy kit on his. Iirc it's an 05. 220 HP

[Atomsk]

I DD a 300+ whp tc automatic. Very much worth it even if you only stick to 6 or 8 psi. +100 whp is always noticed :)

EDIT: Best part is when I am not getting on it I can ride comfortable even in traffic with no issues.


What all have you done to that Auto Transmission to handle that much power? It just from everything i have read has said the stock tc auto transmission can only handle up to about 250 before you get problems with slipping.

[Hix]

I drove about 8000 miles after installing the turbo at 8psi with my boost controller set to 11psi when I wanted to get on it. All I had at that point was a transmission cooler; I attempted to do a valve body twice before that but both valve bodies were bad and I went back to stock after. After that my turbo blew, turbonetics v1 kit had a problem with the oil seals this was not an uncommon thing. After the rebuild I ended up putting alot more goodies in it including IPT Valve Body, Tial WG (11psi), and a much more aggressive tune. I only drove like that for maybe 500 miles until my car was broken into and it has been in the shop since then.

The stock transmission will handle 250ish whp with little problem as long as you dont beat the hell out of your car with just an oil cooler. A valve body you can handle around 300. Clutches you should be able to hold 350. Torque converter will not allow you to handle more power but will make the power transfer to the ground better. All together a built transmission should hold 400-450 whp... All of this is according to IPT and corroborated by Lvl10.

I am actaully in the process of building the engine (only need pistons now) and will be purchasing a Dezod return rail as soon as it is realeased... Then will come E85 and hopefully 350whp.

90% of how long your transmission lasts is dependant on how you drive. I am a very calm driver and do not get on the gas that often. I do race my car on rare occasions and plan on tracking it if I can keep it or my other cars out of the shop. (breakins and getting hit by drunk drivers...)

CLIFF NOTES: It will handle alot with just an oil cooler, if you want to push more get an IPT valvebody.

[Hix]

If you plan on pushing some serious power your going to have to build the tranny up... I remember reading on scionlife where some one was pushing around 350 and his built tranny was slippin his next mod was a 5 speed manual swap..

Chad or 'SoFlo' was the person your thinking of. Alot of his had to do with bad luck. He got a Lvl10 built transmission and it was crap. They actually said it wouldn't work unless he did some crazy magic trick shit... Moral of the story is dont goto lvl10.

[TRD TC]

i am not looking to race or anything just want to build up a little more horse power than what i have now .. all i have is the trd cold air intake, and trd exhaust for engine mod's and i have about 40,000 miles

[rstc120]

im in the same line as TRD TC, i want to turbo my DD RS5. I have 13.5k miles now.

[THansenite]

Just a note, if you aren't very mechanically inclined, I would recommend not getting a turbo. When you put an aftermarket turbo on a car that wasn't originally designed for one, you will run into problems. You need to know how to fix them unless you have a backup car and lots of money for towing and shop fees. That is why I always recommend people install their own turbo setup, even if they have people help them, they need to be involved. That way, when something goes wrong, they are familiar with all of the parts of the turbo so they have an idea of what went wrong. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, I would strongly suggest not getting a turbo until you have done a lot of research and do feel comfortable.

[ReaperX]

turboing an automatic is always dicey. i would stick to learning manual, then do a swap. much cheaper and easier to change out a clutch and/or flywheel than it is to rebuild an autotragic tranny. Don't turbo the auto unless you're ready and willing to build that tranny. when you decide to do that, you must set a goal of hp to build the tranny to.

my .02

[TRD TC]

cool thanks tony and shaun .. yea and i really don't want to f*** nothing up .. and i just know the basic about engines

[Hix]

Turbo is about the only way to build real power with the tC. Building the engine takes alot of money and alot of engine knowledge. You can get an out of the box turbo on low psi and be pretty good. Both Descendant and Dezod are good for a DD. There is really no reason you can't turbo an automatic, the same holds true for a manual transmission. You will most likely run in to some kind of problems because the car was not designed to be turbocharged. That's why they say don't boost on a budget.

The number one reason an amatuer cannot install a turbo is because it needs to be tuned, and tuned well. Installing the kit is very simple. TRC TC your in lafayette so your not far from here you might wanna call Chris to do an install and tune for you... He is still cheaper than a speed shop with the whole drive you would have to make. Check out the N. Houston chapter thread Chris has a sticky.

[TRD TC]

ok cool .. yea i go to houston a lot but i wonder if it will be worth it since i don't know shit about them and like tony said if something goes wrong either have a lot of money or know about the turbo itself

[E-Dub]

ok cool .. yea i go to houston a lot but i wonder if it will be worth it since i don't know shit about them and like tony said if something goes wrong either have a lot of money or know about the turbo itself

research about turbo's since u only know the basic engine details. then turbo ur auto and when things go wrong (if they do) you can fix them yourself. It's your car, you do what YOU want to do. everyone has their own opinions, i mean your car is your car, it is what it is (automatic) so f*** shit up with it! :):wallb:

[TRD TC]

research about turbo's since u only know the basic engine details. then turbo ur auto and when things go wrong (if they do) you can fix them yourself. It's your car, you do what YOU want to do. everyone has their own opinions, i mean your car is your car, it is what it is (automatic) so f*** shit up with it! :):wallb:

yea i know just wondering if it is worth it being an automatic

[Hix]

Yes it is

[ReaperX]

My last input on this, a little quote from a foxbody ford guy I know:

"The more power you make, the more shit you break"

Make sure your wallet is ready for the kit, the extra bits to make it work properly, and extra for repairs. It's not a matter of if something will break, it's a matter of when.

Not trying to scare you, do what was said above- research, research, and research until you're blue in the face, then research some more

GOOD LUCK!

btw your welcome :)

[TRD TC]

yea i will .. thanks again man

[E-Dub]

My last input on this, a little quote from a foxbody ford guy I know:

"The more power you make, the more shit you break"

Make sure your wallet is ready for the kit, the extra bits to make it work properly, and extra for repairs. It's not a matter of if something will break, it's a matter of when.

Not trying to scare you, do what was said above- research, research, and research until you're blue in the face, then research some more

GOOD LUCK!

btw your welcome :)


Mind if i use that quote in my signature? I'm digging it and never have heard it! lol!!!!:Musique48:

[ReaperX]

Mind if i use that quote in my signature? I'm digging it and never have heard it! lol!!!!:Musique48:

Go for it, just give me a little cred on it ;) lol

[E-Dub]

Go for it, just give me a little cred on it ;) lol

You got it. sorry for being off-topic josh. Best of luck to you bro!

[TRD TC]

its all good .. thread jack if you want, i even get off topic in other people's thread's so i am guilty myself for it at times .. :up: we all family

[Dezod]

I am actaully in the process of building the engine (only need pistons now) and will be purchasing a Dezod return rail as soon as it is realeased... Then will come E85 and hopefully 350whp.


Next week for sure. Fittings are scheduled to be here tomorrow. :)

[PiketC1868]

Just a note, if you aren't very mechanically inclined, I would recommend not getting a turbo. When you put an aftermarket turbo on a car that wasn't originally designed for one, you will run into problems. You need to know how to fix them unless you have a backup car and lots of money for towing and shop fees. That is why I always recommend people install their own turbo setup, even if they have people help them, they need to be involved. That way, when something goes wrong, they are familiar with all of the parts of the turbo so they have an idea of what went wrong. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, I would strongly suggest not getting a turbo until you have done a lot of research and do feel comfortable.



What Tony says is true!!!! From oil lines to tunes there you will run into problems even if you install it perfect! Dont let this turn you away but you might want to learn about it and do your research!!!!

[asphaltrunner]

Not made for turbocharging? Hmmm. I'm not a master mechanic, but if the tC can be supercharged, then it can be turbo charged. The last I checked some of the components were forged. The way the engine handles the boost depends on the tune. This means that if properly tuned (and the engine remains within operating limits) nothing will break.

[DeadCannon]

The motor wasn't designed to be boosted. The SR20 was made for boost. The 4G63 was made for boost. The 2JZ was made for boost. The 2AZ... not so much. See what I'm getting at? ;)

[masterp627]

turbos are finicky. something will start to mess up eventually. just maintain it correctly and you wont have any real issue's.

[The 1 2 Die 4]

When stealerships were installing the TRD Supercharger, they wouldnt install it on an auto.. Unless you had some connections..

The Automatic tranny just isnt built for power, like the engine block..

[TRD TC]

that is pretty much prone to happen to any engine i am sure once you start putting all kinds of boost on it