New Hatch & Gauges

[dj short-e]

Hatch.... (by Motor-Fx)

[dj short-e]

Pix 1-3. GaugesRED & white

4. Floor Lighting by Street-Fx
(sorry they're fuzzy, i didnt have my tripod)

[Krzd1]

Looks dope :up:

[_Keith_]

Looking good

You need the hatch garnish in the middle in CF though

[dj short-e]

Looking good

You need the hatch garnish in the middle in CF though

I thought about that.. but i kinda like how the different tone sets it off.. i might do that eventually though.

[firstkingofbeer]

looks good!

[eujin]

lookin good Jeff! now lower that shit some more! haha

[Autobot_tc]

Very nice (Borat Voice)

[dj short-e]

lookin good Jeff! now lower that shit some more! haha

It's kinda weird but it's actually sittin' on the tires.. but no matter how i take the pictures.. it always looks WAY high off the ground.. I prolly just need coilovers! haha.. i might do that eventually. i just keep finding too many other things to do. Hey, you coming to the show eugin?

[JoshCrane1]

how much weight did you lose with that new hatch? Looks descent, but weight reduction is probably why it was made. just curious.

[dj short-e]

how much weight did you lose with that new hatch? Looks descent, but weight reduction is probably why it was made. just curious.

Carbon Fiber parts are ALWAYS less weight than the original parts. I lift the CF hatch without the window and its very light, maybe 10-12lbs at the most. I didnt get to lift the original hatch but the shop said it felt like 100lbs or more with the glass in it. ALSO, i dont have the springs on the new hatch so it feels heavy right now to lift it. Kind of hard to tell. I bought it for the look anyways, not really weight reduction.

The one thing i like is that i get ABSOLUTELY NO RATTLE from the new hatch though like i did with the OEM hatch.

[JoshCrane1]

Carbon Fiber parts are ALWAYS less weight than the original parts. I lift the CF hatch without the window and its very light, maybe 10-12lbs at the most. I didnt get to lift the original hatch but the shop said it felt like 100lbs or more with the glass in it. ALSO, i dont have the springs on the new hatch so it feels heavy right now to lift it. Kind of hard to tell. I bought it for the look anyways, not really weight reduction.

The one thing i like is that i get ABSOLUTELY NO RATTLE from the new hatch though like i did with the OEM hatch.


yeah the rattle is annoying, heard there is a remedy like double sided tape on the bumpers or something. quick question, how do you go about getting sponsorships?

[dj short-e]

yeah the rattle is annoying, heard there is a remedy like double sided tape on the bumpers or something. quick question, how do you go about getting sponsorships?

it was all in the pedestal spoiler.. that thing is annoying.. and as far as sponsorship, it depends on what kinda stuff you want.

you can start with carsponsorship.com

we (SciKoticS) have a special deal with them.
E-mail Ragen:
Ragen @ carsponsorships.com

tell him you're with scikotics and they'll work it all out for you.

[JoshCrane1]

Thanks bro.

[engifineer]

Just be wary of the gauge work. Paul has been kicked off of two sites now for doing terrible work, not fixing it, ripping people off... etc. Someone took one of his clusters apart and posted pics on scionlife... the biggest, scariest looking pile of crap I have ever seen (I would have been laughed out of first semester electronics for that type of work). Wire stilts all over to do his needle lighting, solder blobs all over, etc. To make it more clear, the right way to do it is to affix the leds behind the needles on small boards that are affixed to the white bezel, then wire them into the main board with wires that are glued down and secure. I posted the link with pics of his below... it is sad really :P He is by far the last person I would recommend to do this type of work. Not to mention he was usually double my pricing and above the others I know who do good work. And the way I do it takes longer! So his hourly rate is sky high for low quality work. (not sure what you paid, but for a comparison I would have charged about $140 for that including the HVAC led swap.. even if you wanted color changing needles) If you start having issues with the gauge needles not working at all or intermittently, or the lighting failing off and on, it is because his stilts vibrate and touch the metal spindle for the needles, or they inevitably vibrate enough to break thier connections (this is almost garaunteed when soldering stuff together the way he did.. sometimes it takes a long time, sometimes a short time).

Hopefully yours stays together well. If not, good luck getting a hold of him, since he has ripped off as many as he has treated well. He is a smooth talking salesman... until you have an issue :P Not trying to scare you, just trying to get the friendly warning out there. The rest of us are already working with, or have worked with some of his customers to try and get them working again after he messed thier stuff up.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=158645&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=280

[dj short-e]

Just be wary of the gauge work. Paul has been kicked off of two sites now for doing terrible work, not fixing it, ripping people off... etc. Someone took one of his clusters apart and posted pics on scionlife... the biggest, scariest looking pile of crap I have ever seen (I would have been laughed out of first semester electronics for that type of work). Wire stilts all over to do his needle lighting, solder blobs all over, etc. To make it more clear, the right way to do it is to affix the leds behind the needles on small boards that are affixed to the white bezel, then wire them into the main board with wires that are glued down and secure. I posted the link with pics of his below... it is sad really :P He is by far the last person I would recommend to do this type of work. Not to mention he was usually double my pricing and above the others I know who do good work. And the way I do it takes longer! So his hourly rate is sky high for low quality work. (not sure what you paid, but for a comparison I would have charged about $140 for that including the HVAC led swap.. even if you wanted color changing needles) If you start having issues with the gauge needles not working at all or intermittently, or the lighting failing off and on, it is because his stilts vibrate and touch the metal spindle for the needles, or they inevitably vibrate enough to break thier connections (this is almost garaunteed when soldering stuff together the way he did.. sometimes it takes a long time, sometimes a short time).

Hopefully yours stays together well. If not, good luck getting a hold of him, since he has ripped off as many as he has treated well. He is a smooth talking salesman... until you have an issue :P Not trying to scare you, just trying to get the friendly warning out there. The rest of us are already working with, or have worked with some of his customers to try and get them working again after he messed thier stuff up.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=158645&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=280

Thanks for the info. No trouble yet..

[slick07tc]

hey jeff where did you get the hood?

[Krdshrk]

Wow... I'm glad I had Karl do mine... direct replacement... none of that bs wiring crap.

[JustAtC]

hey jeff where did you get the hood?

he won it at the motor-fx open house last year. it's one of their vented hoods.

[sarahashley23]

Looks hella good! :mrb:

[xX EL HeFFe Xx]

:clap: That hatch is hott so r the gauges, the color combo inside looks great!!!

[engifineer]

Wow... I'm glad I had Karl do mine... direct replacement... none of that bs wiring crap.


Well, you cant do a direct placement and have the needles glowing a different color like mine or his. You can repaint them, but not have the different color glow unless it is white and you use vinyl to make the gauge faces a different color. The difference between the crap paul does and what I do (besides me charging less and having real electronics training :P ) is that his looks like

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/engifineer/P1010230.jpg

and mine looks like

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/engifineer/ClusterSwap_CC.jpg

In other words.. isolated circuit, everything solidly in place with adhesive and the wiring glued to the board.

But... back to the thread :D

[tcTekk]

diggin the CF hatch very nice

[dj short-e]

Well, you cant do a direct placement and have the needles glowing a different color like mine or his. You can repaint them, but not have the different color glow unless it is white and you use vinyl to make the gauge faces a different color. The difference between the crap paul does and what I do (besides me charging less and having real electronics training :P ) is that his looks like

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/engifineer/P1010230.jpg

and mine looks like

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/engifineer/ClusterSwap_CC.jpg

In other words.. isolated circuit, everything solidly in place with adhesive and the wiring glued to the board.

But... back to the thread :D

i basically did it through paul because he was local.. and i did it way before i heard all the bad stuff.. i believe i asked some advice on where and how to get it done (before i did it) but nobody chimed in so i found it myself.. no problems yet *crosses fingers*

[_Keith_]

Well, you cant do a direct placement and have the needles glowing a different color like mine or his. You can repaint them, but not have the different color glow unless it is white and you use vinyl to make the gauge faces a different color. The difference between the crap paul does and what I do (besides me charging less and having real electronics training :P ) is that his looks like

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/engifineer/P1010230.jpg

and mine looks like

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/engifineer/ClusterSwap_CC.jpg

In other words.. isolated circuit, everything solidly in place with adhesive and the wiring glued to the board.

But... back to the thread :D

I dont mean to sound rude but this isnt the place to be posting this info...

Jeff is showing off his car and his mods...

[dj short-e]

thanx Keith!

[Aurora]

LOOKS AWESOME!!! Jeff

Saw this stuff first hand at the show. Oh, any info on your old hatch Jeff?

[engifineer]

You are right. Sorry to get the conversation off track.

[dj short-e]

You are right. Sorry to get the conversation off track.

It's all good.. its good to know theres other options out there.. hopefully i dont have to do mine over cuz of bad work.

[07tc559]

nice car dude...hey i was wondering though...could you close and hide the screen...it dosnt get in the way right...i want to get one,but im not sure if it closed or not....:up:

[dj short-e]

nice car dude...hey i was wondering though...could you close and hide the screen...it dosnt get in the way right...i want to get one,but im not sure if it closed or not....:up:

it closes... BUT the shop had to cut or shave down something to get it to work.. you dont see it from the front though so its ok. I dont remember exactly what they did.

[Nebster]

where are your glowshift gauges. i wanna see em'

[dj short-e]

where are your glowshift gauges. i wanna see em'

Still waiting to get installed cuz i dont have the money to do it.. i can take a picture of them sitting on the floor when i get home though.

[Nebster]

which ones did u get?

[dj short-e]

which ones did u get?

I got :

Air/Fuel
Vaccuum
Tach



For now cuz i dont have a turbo or supercharger. I basically wanted it for looked.. I know that sounds dumb but it a show car, not a race car.

[Nebster]

yeah. do they have a wideband a/f because the tc wont take narrowband a/f

[dj short-e]

Not sure.. HERE http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=2

check it out :)

[Nebster]

hmmm while it is a show car i wouldn't be too worried with it. ithink its a narrowband a/f.

[_Keith_]

For that price its got to be a narrowband

[Nebster]

For that price its got to be a narrowband

exactly my thought

[nrgwar]

how much lighter is the new Carbon Fiber hatch from the OEM ? also did your stock glass fit right in ?

[dj short-e]

how much lighter is the new Carbon Fiber hatch from the OEM ? also did your stock glass fit right in ?

1. Not sure. and i dont have the springs on it right now so it FEELS heavy. I know that the OEM HOOD was 25 pounds and the CF hood was 9 pounds. I dont know that weight for the hatch though.

2. Yes the stock glass fits right on there.. no modifications.

[manjambles]

i dont have shocks on either, but it still feels heavy. its def the glass tho. when i had just the hatch i was swinging it around in the air it was so light

[1_kLEaN_tC]

Nice....I like the hatch...

[Curtis]

Looks real good!

[LiLRoN]

Man that looks sooo dope!!!!!!....ah one day i hope my car looks like that....:bow: