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mattvs
05-31-2006, 06:03 PM
Wheels or a Header/S-pipe/Damper setup.

Wheels would be the Enkei J10s (hot)..

or I'd probably be going with the MMW header/s-pipe simply because I don't want to fabricate my own fix for the CEL and then the Ingall's Damper.

The cost is virtually the same providing I stick with a 17x7 wheel size.

I won't be getting my turbo any time in the near future since I spent my funds on an apartment instead, lolz. But I want to make the car look better and be a bit quicker so meh.

Anonymous
05-31-2006, 06:35 PM
Without FI, the dampener is not really needed so you can save a few bucks there. My opinion is the Header/S-pipe combo. It will give looks when the hood is popped but the extra HP can be felt.........

mattvs
05-31-2006, 06:44 PM
I almost don't want to do the header/s-pipe because that would be the end of simple bolt-ons :p

I'll probably end up doing that though. Quickiness > Lookiness :p

aZepolyn
05-31-2006, 07:41 PM
Just say no to the stiffy... if you search through ScionLife, someone posted an diy urethane motor mounts, better than the stiffy, and cheaper too. just takes time

Anonymous
05-31-2006, 08:12 PM
I almost don't want to do the header/s-pipe because that would be the end of simple bolt-ons :p

I'll probably end up doing that though. Quickiness > Lookiness :p

So you don't do it cuz there wouldn't be much else besides that for bolt on performance..... not making much sense here..... :P There is also exhaust you forgot about......

JylBish
05-31-2006, 08:18 PM
Just say no to the stiffy

Damn. This piece of advice could have saved me a lot of trouble.

aZepolyn
05-31-2006, 08:21 PM
Just say no to the stiffy

Damn. This piece of advice could have saved me a lot of trouble.

hey, had you just asked, I coulda helped you out too jyl! :pilot:

mattvs
05-31-2006, 10:08 PM
I've already got a cat-back I picked up from CreativeCompacts almost a year ago. The next time I upgrade it will be either A) never if I decide to trade up or B) to a custom 3in when I turbo.

So far, performance wise...

Fidanza Flywheel
Umnitza Intake
CC Catback / Magnaflow exhaust
Avon Tech M550 tires (huge performance upgrade from stock)
TWM Stage 2 short shifter

I could swap the intake for an Injen but there really isn't a point for that since I wouldn't really gain anything except engine bling, I could probably find a better exhaust since the version I got is just as twisty as the stock exhaust, just sounds so nice. I could swap the clutch for something a bit stronger as prep for turbo/super/whatevercharger since that would seriously save on install costs later (I'll bolt shit on, but I won't touch the transmission/engine internals)..

I could go with wider tires (17x8) if I wait a bit longer since there aren't a lot of them that I know of (in fact, only one I know of that actually comes as 17x8 48 offset is FN 01rc or something to that effect from 5Zigen. They look SECKS but I think they're near 200 a pop ;)

Failing all of the above, I save up $12,000, pay off the car. Swap out all the stuff I still have stock items for and trade-in for a WRX (since they're easier to drop power in to than the STi), Evo X (if it's out), 350z (if they're not as cramped as I've heard), or if I really get deep into my current business, an M3. I'm not holding my breath on that, but hey, dreams are good.


I don't really have a plan for this car other than looking subtley cool and putting around 300-350, or enough to have fun with, while at the same time, keeping a relatively reliable setup so things like driving from home to as far as Sacramento or so remain possible.

A turbo may put a small damper on that, but I trust in Sound Performance's setup (if I turbo, it's their kit I'm getting without a doubt) since they only run 7psi (same as stock TRD Supercharger) to put down 260-270 by it's own self.


Maybe I'm reading too much into my own situation :p

Krdshrk
05-31-2006, 11:00 PM
If you want 17x8's EdgeRacing.com has some Raze R74's in 17x8 +48.

Only colors available are Gunmetal and Gold, but they're relatively cheap ($134 each)
http://www.edgeracing.com/images/wheel/raze_r74_(gun_metal)_angle.jpg
http://www.edgeracing.com/images/wheel/raze_r74_(gold)_angle.jpg

Plus there's also Enkei... The RP03's like Ed has, or the Nt03's...
http://www.edgeracing.com/images/wheel/enkei_wheel_nt03_m_(silver)_angle.jpg
Or the RS M
http://www.edgeracing.com/images/wheel/enkei_wheel_rs_m_angle.jpg

mattvs
05-31-2006, 11:05 PM
Not subtle enough, but thanks for posting those. More options is always good.


I so dig the J10 though....this is a big image:


http://www.discounttire.com/product/wheels/enkj10.mtb.xl.jpg

i just dont know if i can get that one 17x8 ; ;

Krdshrk
06-01-2006, 12:20 AM
The J10's only come in 17x7.

all4degame
06-01-2006, 12:52 AM
Injen Intake
MMW Headers/spipe
Megan V2 Exhaust
ZPI Lightweight pully

I think you would be gain maybe 25-30whp with all of those. That is the setup i would get.

mattvs
06-01-2006, 03:35 AM
I'd gain probably 10whp since I already have everything but the header/s-pipe and I will not but an undampened crank pulley on my car. I can't afford to replace engine internals so I won't take that risk.

_Keith_
06-01-2006, 09:56 AM
yikes 48 offset you need like a 40...

Krdshrk
06-01-2006, 09:59 AM
No... not with 17x8's. +40 offset would rub. +45 is the minimum. +48 is ideal.

17x7's you can go with as little as a +35 offset. That's how I roll.

_Keith_
06-01-2006, 01:18 PM
No... not with 17x8's. +40 offset would rub. +45 is the minimum. +48 is ideal.

17x7's you can go with as little as a +35 offset. That's how I roll.


umm no...

I run 18x8.5 with a 35 offset...

a 48 your gonna be so in you want them pushed out more......

and dont say your lower cuz im dropped on tein ss-p I mean dropped.

mattvs
06-01-2006, 02:03 PM
I'd rather have them in far enough that I won't rub when the car is loaded with stuff that out to the point where it's nice and slick but grinds pure fender when the car is loaded :p

Anonymous
06-01-2006, 05:36 PM
But how many people fully load these cars?

Krdshrk
06-01-2006, 08:56 PM
Believe me, Keith - you may run ok but I prefer to err on the side of safety.

And yes, I do load my car fully. That's why I don't have a nice custom sound system in the trunk.... I can only swing the 2 small boxes that I have cuz I move servers and computers for work.

Anonymous
06-01-2006, 10:57 PM
Believe me, Keith - you may run ok but I prefer to err on the side of safety.

And yes, I do load my car fully. That's why I don't have a nice custom sound system in the trunk.... I can only swing the 2 small boxes that I have cuz I move servers and computers for work.

So do I from time to time........since my system is in place of my backseat, I am still cool with it though......atleast until I get my NOS set up....... ;)

mattvs
06-22-2006, 01:32 AM
ordered, coated, and installed the MMW header/downpipe combo. They are....loud..and...good..